10-15-2011, 05:01 PM
Location: International Spacestation
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You've got a good point here Northside. Those looking for a quiet neighborhood at night should choose downtown to live. As far as bringing people downtown is concerned, I've always thought that a farmer's market that could be set up every weekend at the Landing might work.
10-15-2011, 05:34 PM
Location: NE Florida
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I have said it before and I will say it again:
A casino.
That's what we need downtown. It will draw people from far and wide and put money in the city coffers. I am not talking Vegas or Atlantic City but a little controlled gambling will liven up the city, not to mention jobs and a venue for conferences. Too radical an idea? Well downtown Jacksonville is dead, we need some bold innovations.
10-15-2011, 05:53 PM
Location: On the banks of the St Johns River
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I have said it before and I will say it again:
A casino.
That's what we need downtown. It will draw people from far and wide and put money in the city coffers. I am not talking Vegas or Atlantic City but a little controlled gambling will liven up the city, not to mention jobs and a venue for conferences. Too radical an idea? Well downtown Jacksonville is dead, we need some bold innovations.
^^^ I like it! Maybe even get a Mississippi style gambling riverboat to dock downtown also. Go out on a dinner cruise and gamble the night away, with some good entertainment thrown in, in the lounge area.
10-16-2011, 09:21 AM
Location: International Spacestation
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I have said it before and I will say it again:
A casino.
That's what we need downtown. It will draw people from far and wide and put money in the city coffers. I am not talking Vegas or Atlantic City but a little controlled gambling will liven up the city, not to mention jobs and a venue for conferences. Too radical an idea? Well downtown Jacksonville is dead, we need some bold innovations.
A casino is a gimmick, plus FBC would throw so much salt in that idea. Jacksonville people can come off as boring to other people outside. This thread is not really about people being downtown, its a subliminal jab at FSU and city supporter from the suburbanites lol, by using the Occupy Jacksonville movement that has seemed to be faded away.
10-16-2011, 10:58 AM
Location: NE Florida
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A casino is a gimmick, plus FBC would throw so much salt in that idea. Jacksonville people can come off as boring to other people outside. This thread is not really about people being downtown, its a subliminal jab at FSU and city supporter from the suburbanites lol, by using the Occupy Jacksonville movement that has seemed to be faded away.
Fly, in case you missed it, this thread has moved on. We are now talking about making downtown a more vibrant place long after the Occupy Jacksonville movement is a distant memory. You can disagree with the idea of a casino and call it a gimmick but what are your solutions to liven up downtown Jax? Forget about more lights, more parking, new parks, none of that is going to bring people from the suburbs or the outlying areas into downtown Jacksonville. Ya gotta think outside the box man!
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10-16-2011, 02:36 PM
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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A casino is a gimmick, plus FBC would throw so much salt in that idea. Jacksonville people can come off as boring to other people outside. This thread is not really about people being downtown, its a subliminal jab at FSU and city supporter from the suburbanites lol, by using the Occupy Jacksonville movement that has seemed to be faded away.
Actually I started this thread for exactly the purpose I stated - to talk about people being downtown on weekends - any people.
We went to MOCA yesterday - and the Occupy JAX people were in Hemming Park (until about 3 - when they went to Main Street because of a religious program that is held in Hemming Park every Saturday afternoon). Paper said there were about 200 people - but I'd estimate 100-150 + 50 of the usual residents of Hemming Park.
BTW - the exhibits at MOCA now (all photography) are pretty good - especially the Gilman collection. Takes about an hour to see everything.
I had to shake my head yesterday though at how dumb people are. There were a whole lot of people at MOCA yesterday - for some movie at the film festival. Now the film festival tickets did not include admission to MOCA - and apparently almost no one from the film festival was willing to pay the 7 or 8 bucks (5 bucks for seniors) to see the museum. Now how hard would it have been for the film festival people to contact the MOCA people and negotiate some kind of deal for museum admission for the film festival people that would be included in the price of the film festival ticket? So more people could be exposed to MOCA - and possibly join.
Anyway - the MOCA people told us that are zero people from Occupy JAX stopping into the museum. (Although it was obvious to me that some could afford it - I saw people with expensive computers in Hemming Park - a teacher grading papers - etc. - etc.). They apparently are using the main library for their sanitary needs. FWIW - the MOCA people also said they get some bums from time to time - especially the older ones - over 60 - who get a senior discount. The bathrooms are more private - and cleaner.
Finally - if - as claimed - a lot of the people are protesting student loan payments - they have cause for complaint IMO. One of the signs I saw yesterday said "Eliminate the Deficet". And - it seems that the protests will move over to the Riverside Arts Market next weekend. That will be interesting. Robyn
P.S. to Cricketfan - I don't think the gambling idea would work in downtown downtown because downtown downtown is pretty crowded during business hours on weekdays (at least it has been the few times I've been there in the last couple of years). And a gambling place has to be open during weekday business hours.
10-16-2011, 02:53 PM
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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I guess I should mention a few other things. We went to the library for a while - to see what was going on. It wasn't super crowded - but there were a fair number of people there. And a substantial minority or perhaps a majority were bums. Most of the rest seemed to be black parents with children. I think the library has a lot of potential. But I also think most people - especially those with kids - will tend to avoid it as long as a large % of its permanent population is bums.
FWIW - I agree with this op-ed piece I read in the FTU this week:
We need to clear downtown of hoboes | jacksonville.com
Finally - our parking in the library parking garage was supposed to be free with validation (on a Saturday). But it wasn't. I didn't mind spending the 3 bucks - but I suspect some people who haven't planned spending the money for parking will be po'd and won't be back. Robyn
10-16-2011, 07:20 PM
Location: International Spacestation
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Fly, in case you missed it, this thread has moved on. We are now talking about making downtown a more vibrant place long after the Occupy Jacksonville movement is a distant memory. You can disagree with the idea of a casino and call it a gimmick but what are your solutions to liven up downtown Jax? Forget about more lights, more parking, new parks, none of that is going to bring people from the suburbs or the outlying areas into downtown Jacksonville. Ya gotta think outside the box man!
This is exactly why I feel those folks on MetroJacksonville should partake on city-data...some of them do, but the mods do not, probably for selfish reasons. I will admit those MetroJacksonville poster are a lot more involved in that topic than I am. I support downtown jax...both NorthBank & SouthBank, city-data/Jax has way more suburban supporters than urban supporters.
10-16-2011, 08:18 PM
Location: NE Florida
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I'm not sure I get your point.
10-17-2011, 12:47 PM
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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Well - for starters - there's no place to park that isn't relatively expensive (for JAX). OTOH - there's plenty of empty stuff just north of downtown downtown that might work. On the third hand - that area is pretty bleak looking. If I were looking to build any kind of recreational facility (including one where gambling was allowed) - I'd been looking for nice attractive waterfront property. Robyn
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People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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