10-06-2007, 11:25 AM
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I know this has been asked over and over but I need to have some of my St Johns County questions answered for myself!!!
We will be relocating from Detroit MI to St Johns county this June/July 2008. We have 3 small daughters 6,4 and 9 months. We are looking at building or to find a spec home. 3500 sq ft or more around 700K plus we want to have a pool built as well. I have done A LOT of research already and we have a trip down after Thanksgiving to house hunt. The areas Im interested in would be Palencia, Worthington Park, Durbin Crossing, Julington Creek. Nocatee seems very over priced, I can build the same home for 70k less in another sub. I like the PVB area but I dont think I will find a new home in my size or price. Suggestions on communities would be awesome!!! My hubby is an ER Doc and will most likely be working for Baptist South and probably on midnights.
So any help would be awesome. Im wondering about shopping close to these subs, Targets? Malls?? Grocery?? Im coming from a metropolis with everything at my finger tips a mile away. I want to be able to drive to Jacksonville and St Augustine to run errands, do dinner, hang out for a few hours.
Thanks!!!
10-06-2007, 01:01 PM
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Hi!
I live in Chicago area and have 4 children. We are also relocating to this area. Many people have been very helpful here. Palencia is beautiful. Check out the houses though. I'm not sure if you are going to get what you want for the $$$. So far, PV was my fave, but we've taken it off our list for the same reason as you. Right now, we are looking at St. John's golf and CC. We went there and it was super family friendly and super community oriented. We are also very fond of Julington Creek. It is HUGE and a little overwhelming, but much closer to activities for my kids. We've narrowed it to these two for now. If you can afford in Palencia, go for it! I don't know much about Durbin Creek, but have heard nice things about Worthington Park. Another place you might want to look at and it's gated (I think) is St. John's Forrest. It's a little more upscale and very nice. Nocatee is really beautiful when you first drive in. I will tell you that we went there and there were hardly any houses built. It is eventually going to be pretty sweet (full blown waterpark, etc.), but it is going to take years and years. The market in NE Florida is not very good, not that it's any better for sellers anywhere else. You can probably get a good deal in any of those neighborhoods. It just depends on your criteria - mine is great schools, family friendly subdivision and relatively close to my kids sports. I don't know if you have come down, but I had a totally different view when I actually drove into these neighborhoods. Believe it or not, they are all so different.
Good Luck!
10-06-2007, 01:29 PM
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I live in St Augustine Beach. Palencia seems very nice and reminds me of some kind of "fmaily land" out of a movie. We go there on our way to jacksonville to stop at the awesome pirate ship playground in the front of Palencia. However, it is a not yet developed area so it is surrounded by nothing at this point. In 5 years, it will be packed with tons of stuff I am sure. It is about 10 min from world golf village (grocery store) and 15 min tops from st augustine shopping(target, grocery, chain stores, local downtown shops) and maybe 15 or 20 min tops to jacksonville shopping (malls, everything else) but nothing right at Palencia...yet. Prob 20ish minutes to either PVB (east on 210) or Vilano beach (east over intercoastal to A1A which is S ouf palencia) St Augustine is very small townish and Jacksonville is not a walkable city but has all the restaurants, shopping etc. you will need. The two closest malls to Palencia will be the st johns town center or the Avenues mall.
Julington Creek/Durbin area is also nice but much farther from the beach (if that matters) and not really close to st augustine. It is practically in jacksonville so you will be closer to all the shopping and suburban sprawl you could imagine. None of those neighborhoods really stand out to me but they are all nice, safe, and family friendly. Nocatee is def overpriced. None of the areas you mentioned are a sketchy part of town or even close. St Johns schools are pretty much all great. My husband and I are both teachers and have kids.
Ponte Vedra would be my pick if you could afford it just because of the beach. They aren't making anymore ocean =) If not, Palencia would be my second choice. From Nov - April we have GORGEOUS weather most of the time but in the summer, the only outdoors I can handle is the beach and it is significantly cooler on the beach than say, the local park. So, living near the water was important to me but not necessarily for everyone.
Good luck! I will check back if you have more questions.
10-06-2007, 10:10 PM
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Palencia is very pretty and a nice place to live, but Julington Creek has more shopping nearby. You may also want to consider St. Johns Golf and CC. The shopping is really growing up along the 210 corridor. By the way, if you move to Julington Creek, I have an excellent pediatrician who is extremely knowledgable and helpful. Her name is Vicki Mosteller.
10-07-2007, 01:16 AM
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Baptist South is a great hospital to work for. I love the feeling of the hospital as you walk through it. It is one of the best hospitals I have ever seen!
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10-07-2007, 01:30 AM
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Baptist South is a great hospital to work for. I love the feeling of the hospital as you walk through it. It is one of the best hospiatls I have ever seen!
The new location in St. John's is nice, but the one downtown is pretty nasty, IMO. Maybe I've only seen the unrenovated parts or something, but I've had to visit post-op quite a few times in the last couple of years and I've found the rooms to be gross - they felt super-germy, outdated and just generally unclean.....I hate having to go there
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10-07-2007, 01:38 AM
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So any help would be awesome. Im wondering about shopping close to these subs, Targets? Malls?? Grocery?? Im coming from a metropolis with everything at my finger tips a mile away. I want to be able to drive to Jacksonville and St Augustine to run errands, do dinner, hang out for a few hours.
Thanks!!!
To have everything at your fingertips a mile away as you're describing, you'd need to be in Jax.
That really is the long and short of it.
Of the locations you mentioned, Julington Creek Plantation is probably going to be your best bet, but even JCP is too far away for my taste and may be for yours too. Still, if those were my choices, that's what I'd focus on if I wanted the options you're speaking of.
BTW, most people who live in St. Aug - for example, the people who live on Anastasia Island - still have to travel to Jax for some shopping needs, so the shopping area you'd want to be closer to is Jax, not St. Aug - they're not equal in that regard
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10-07-2007, 04:06 AM
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dmbmama
you have been given some great info
6ofus mentioned some great areas I have heard nothing but good things about St. John's golf and CC
If I can add my 2 cents if your not 100 % on St Johns County may I suggest checking out Deerwood and Deercreek on the Southside in Duval county both are gated and not only would your husband be maybe 15 min from Baptist south but the elementary and middle schools for that area are both excellent "A" schools plus a new high school is going to be built that they say will be opening in a couple years.
Another neighborhood would be Glen Kernan also gated and about the same distance from Baptist.
Any of these would have you within minutes of the shopping you mentioned.
and because it wouldn't be a "karla" post without mentioning "pizza" there is a great pizza place close to them also
A friend of mine helped 6ofus when they came down if you want I can DM you his info
The funny thing is over on the Southside we are 12 miles from the ocean so we actually do get the sea breeze effect
Come on down and have a look around
Karla
10-07-2007, 05:28 AM
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Wow thank you to everyone who has helped so far. You are awesome!! I can respect all that you have said!!! Regarding the Deercreek area of south Duval, I have looked into that a little bit, I heard Mandarin is amazing for families and the schools are great. Also Glen Kernan does look amazing too but I wasnt sure what schools they have in Duval and if they are good as well. What about taxes in those 2 areas????
I will keep the 210 corridor on my list, St Johns Forest does seem very nice but I think the lots are smaller there. Worthington Park is close to the river so Im wondering what shopping is near that area.
Im glad Baptist South has some of your approval, it looks beautiful from what we have seen and the people are treating my hubby like a king so far!! Very nice!!!
Also how is the shopping at The Avenues?? Is it a nice mall, safe for Moms and kids and in a good area??? How is it going to downtown Jacksonville for shopping, easy to get there and safe as well?? Or is it intimidating for a Mom w/ little ones???
I would love any suggestions on pediatrician groups you all have. You can even PM me the info so I have it. Ill be needing to get that all set soon as June will be here fast!!!
Another thing is preschools,we are Catholic and I was thinking of doing that for my 4 year old. I was looking at San Juan Del Rio. Any suggestions???
Thanks again!!!!
10-07-2007, 06:21 AM
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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The Avenues is a nice mall and it has a number of great stores and a lot of the basics. I would definitely take a few small kids there. They have one of those kid-play areas with lots of room for parents to sit and regain a moment of sanity. I have had the most success with parking in the parking garage on the second floor. There's a walkway that will take you directly into either Dillard's or Sears and the food court is not too far away after that. However, with the ages that your children are, I don't think I would do downtown without another adult.
Regarding San Juan del Rio, my next door neighbor had her kids there for years before they moved to Indiana. She liked it pretty well. St. Joseph's is also an option but a little hard to get into, from what I understand. But St.Joseph's is a huge complex and has the nickname "Catholic Corner" because between the parish offices, church, school, and original church dating from a long time ago, it occupies all four corners of a major intersection.
Deercreek is super nice with good amenities, as well as Deerwood. Deercreek is a newer area and has LOTS of shopping. Deerwood has older, beautiful homes on big lots and the club is nice with a great pool.
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Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)