Moving from SC to Jacksonville... (Miami, Tampa: 2013, apartments, high crime)

[the9thwonder]

Have you ever been to FL? Didnt you used to live here, or am I mistaking? It is by far worse here, especially in South FL, Orlando, and Tampa areas. NC doesnt compare to FL in driving. We have everything from the aggressive drivers to the slow drivers, to the ignorant drivers who just got their license since arriving in America.

Trust me, and I know, if you think people drive bad in NC, you have no idea what it's like in many parts of FL.

Those 2 examples to me are funny. I have so many stories, as do other people here on this board, that the comments you made make me laugh.

[the9thwonder]

Exhibit A:

"A report in Men's Health magazine gave us (Orlando) the nod for the Angriest City in America.
Florida has 4 out of the top 10 angriest cities so at least we are not the only ones representin' the Sunshine State."

1. Orlando, FL
2. St. Petersburg, FL
3. Detroit, MI
4. Baltimore, MD
5. Nashville, TN
6. Wilmington, DE
7. Miami, FL
8. Memphis, TN
9. Jacksonville, FL
10. St. Louis, MO

Exhibit B:

Cable network Speed Channel took a survey to try to determine which roads really are populated by the most annoying drivers.

Viewers said that Massachusetts drivers are the worst. The rest of the top 10 are:

• 2. Florida
• 3. California
• 4. New York
• 5. New Jersey
• 6. Ohio
• 7. Illinois
• 8. Texas
• 9. Virginia
• 10. Maryland

Exhibit C: from the D.O.T.:

For 2005, Florida ranked first or worst in the nation for pedestrian deaths

[apvbguy]

Originally Posted by the9thwonder

Exhibit A:


Viewers said that Massachusetts drivers are the worst. The rest of the top 10 are:

• 2. Florida
• 3. California
• 4. New York
• 5. New Jersey
• 6. Ohio
• 7. Illinois
• 8. Texas
• 9. Virginia
• 10. Maryland

Exhibit C: from the D.O.T.:

For 2005, Florida ranked first or worst in the nation for pedestrian deaths

my own real world experience which is almost all east coast would be Mass drivers are bad, NYC area drivers are terrible, NJ is bad because of all the NY people driving there, but I think the worst drivers are around the DC area, MD from Baltimore to DC is crazy as is suburban VA near DC. S. Fla is bad because of all the different types of drivers, old people, northerners, arrogant hispanics and just clueless people combine to make driving there bad.
Jax has it's share of crazies especially the people who ignore red lights but they don't hold a a candle to the DC area drivers.

[the9thwonder]

Originally Posted by apvbguy

my own real world experience which is almost all east coast would be Mass drivers are bad, NYC area drivers are terrible, NJ is bad because of all the NY people driving there, but I think the worst drivers are around the DC area, MD from Baltimore to DC is crazy as is suburban VA near DC. S. Fla is bad because of all the different types of drivers, old people, northerners, arrogant hispanics and just clueless people combine to make driving there bad.
Jax has it's share of crazies especially the people who ignore red lights but they don't hold a a candle to the DC area drivers.

I agree with this PVB guy. If you all in Jax are having a problem with red-light runners, I can assure you that Jax is getting a lot of the folks that move to South FL and Orlando too. I mean, look at the states that you mentioned above... and who moves to FL? It makes sense. I hope SC/NC/TN doesn't get like this too, with all the people from those states (NY/NJ/DC/Baltimore/Massachusetts) moving there. Because if I cant get happy back here in FL, I will probably be headed back up that way.

[riveree]

Originally Posted by David in JAX

Exactly. The rate of growth is higher and rising in NC and is rising in SC. The rate of growth is slowing in FL. You can't make a total number growth comparison because Florida started with many more residents. That's why rate of growth percentage is used to make these comparisons.

Right, but if 4 people are relocating south, 3 of them are still choosing Florida over North Carolina, that's all I'm saying - in sheer numbers, more people are choosing FL.

I don't put a whole lot of stock in it anyway, if everyone wants to start moving to NC instead of FL, I'm fine with it - we have enough people here now .

[the9thwonder]

Exactly my point! There are too many people here anyway! I dont know why people saying how many more people FL is getting than NC matters. Why do we want more crowds of people? More traffic? Crime? Road rage? Congestion? Lesser quality of life? No, I dont think any of us want these things!!!!

[riveree]

Originally Posted by the9thwonder

This is true, but I am not sure why gaining more of a population, in an already crowded state, is a good thing. Why is this a good thing? Plus, the kind of people that NC attracts are probably different than the people that FL will attract. They are probably gaining more middle-class, educated folks moving to NC trying to find a better quality of life. Many of them Floridians. The state of Florida, although I like FL, sometimes attracts the wrong crowd.

In my humble opinion, NC wins this hands down, by the fewer people moving IN, and the people the state attracts.

I don't know if it's a good or bad thing. There is an overpopulation problem across the planet and people have to live somewhere. In the US, people love living on the coasts and FL has a lot of coastland, so there will always be an attraction until we reach saturation.

I don't know what type of person is relocating to NC nor to Orlando where you live, but anyone relocating to Jax needs to have it together because you can't just slide by here anymore - it's gotten too expensive. So, "the wrong crowd" would have a hard time thriving here.

[riveree]

Originally Posted by apvbguy

NYC area drivers are terrible, NJ is bad because of all the NY people driving there

Oh no you didn't!! You did not just say that! Blaming NYers for NJers lack of driving skills?! Hilarious!

[the9thwonder]

Riveree, they are thriving in Orlando. To me, it only seems like a matter of time in Jax. I hope not, but look at what is PROBABLY going to happen to places like Port St. Lucie, and areas like that where more and more ppl from S FL are moving to... I am talking specifically about the number of Hatains who are into gang activity relocating there. What is this going to do to those areas? This is my opinion only.

[the9thwonder]

"Oh no you didn't!! You did not just say that! Blaming NYers for NJers lack of driving skills?! Hilarious!"


You all are teasing I see. Overall, both seem to be pretty bad!