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Old 07-21-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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If you drive around in that area it's like someone drew a big line. Tons of development on this side of the line - very little if anything on the other side. And some of the "development" is agricultural - not business/commercial/residential. There are a lot of laws and rules about what you can and cannot do around the Everglades (the Everglades itself is a national park - not exactly open for development ). Robyn
The Ag Reserve here is largely being taken over by developers even though that was never supposed to happen.

The developers are pushing to get the land around Loxahatchee National Wildlife Refuge for development. Parts of the refuge may be up for grabs (at least for hunting, possibly development) because SFWMD doesn't think the refuge is doing a good enough job combatting the invasive vegetation.

Absolutely NOTHING is sacred.

I often wonder how many of the people freaking out about the algae bloom would be willing to give up their nice green lawns?

I'm sure not many. We can't have it all.
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Old 07-21-2016, 05:24 PM
 
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This post is insightful and profound. Can you cite the research that supports your statement?
Asheville actually has a pretty high rate of bachelor's degree or higher (45%) for a "hillbilly mountain town" while Jax is only around 25-26% for people above 25. A lot of people want to be near the mountains but don't want to spend the money it costs to live in Colorado, and Asheville is still pretty reasonably priced and has a decently educated population as well. It's a nice smaller town. Not everyone wants to live in a place that is so large geographically as Jacksonville and it's not like the municipal government here is particularly progressive either.
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I've always wondered, where do those people work in Asheville? Doesn't seem like they have that big of a white collar market there.
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Old 07-22-2016, 08:30 AM
 
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Asheville actually has a pretty high rate of bachelor's degree or higher (45%) for a "hillbilly mountain town" while Jax is only around 25-26% for people above 25. A lot of people want to be near the mountains but don't want to spend the money it costs to live in Colorado, and Asheville is still pretty reasonably priced and has a decently educated population as well. It's a nice smaller town. Not everyone wants to live in a place that is so large geographically as Jacksonville and it's not like the municipal government here is particularly progressive either.

Or they want the mountains but have family in the South, Northeast or Midwest. NC is a do-able day or less drive to most of the Eastern US. Or they just do not want to live in Colorado.

Is that 45% with Bacheors degree the city of Asheville or the metro area?
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Old 07-22-2016, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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I've always wondered, where do those people work in Asheville? Doesn't seem like they have that big of a white collar market there.
Maybe they're all baristas ? Robyn
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Old 07-22-2016, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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Or they want the mountains but have family in the South, Northeast or Midwest. NC is a do-able day or less drive to most of the Eastern US. Or they just do not want to live in Colorado.

Is that 45% with Bacheors degree the city of Asheville or the metro area?
It's the city proper (which is relatively small):

Asheville city North Carolina QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

IMO - comparing the Asheville metro area to JAX is kind of apples to oranges. A better comparison in terms of size and demographics is Buncombe County (Asheville) and St. Johns County. SJC is both better educated and wealthier:

St. Johns County Florida QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

(Chart compares SJC with Duval County and Buncombe County). Robyn
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Old 07-24-2016, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Amelia Island/Rhode Island
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It continues to be a building frenzy here in Nassau County in and around Yulee and Fernandina Beach.

Can't stop growth, but being in the middle of it I find it amazing. We have never lived in an area with such rapid growth in a short period of time. In fact it is at a pace that has surpassed the blow out building days before the crash.

Saw this in the news and it will fuel an already hot market here:

Purchased land on Northside expected to be Amazon.com center
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Old 07-24-2016, 12:21 PM
 
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Wow, first I heard of the Amazon deal. Now things are starting to get clearer. I would expect a number of amazon suppliers will also want to be in the area. There is going to be a lot more freight, from the port, trucking, air. You will have all the other business that are needed to support various services. That is going to truly translate into growth and jobs. I am sure all the big wall street companies that have been laying the ground work now for years knew in advance these things were coming. You don't built 26 pump gas stations and 20,000 home developments on pure speculation. So it sounds like in 10 years things will be very different looking from yulee to pecan park.
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Old 07-25-2016, 02:59 PM
 
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It's the city proper (which is relatively small):

Asheville city North Carolina QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

IMO - comparing the Asheville metro area to JAX is kind of apples to oranges. A better comparison in terms of size and demographics is Buncombe County (Asheville) and St. Johns County. SJC is both better educated and wealthier:

St. Johns County Florida QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

(Chart compares SJC with Duval County and Buncombe County). Robyn
The 45% seemed high for any metro area, no matter how nice and trendy Asheville is there are rural mountainous areas of Buncombe County NC, its not all brew pubs and coffee houses
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Old 07-25-2016, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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The 45% seemed high for any metro area, no matter how nice and trendy Asheville is there are rural mountainous areas of Buncombe County NC, its not all brew pubs and coffee houses
A lot of college educated kids are really underemployed these days. And Asheville seems likes a nice trendy place to be underemployed.

The only people I know in that part of the world are people from Florida with money who have summer places there. Although it is not my cup of tea. I would rather play a sub-4 hour round of golf here in the summer when it's 90 degrees than play a 5+ hour round of golf when it's 80 degrees (all of western NC gets super crowded in the summer).

We've spent some time there in the summer - although not recently. My brother rented a house in that area in the summer for a month a couple of years ago. Reservations at even the most mediocre restaurants had to be made a month or more in advance. Robyn
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