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Old 03-31-2013, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Is there any reason to believe that Jaguar has made a decent entry into the economical car class? Or can one presume that they will just keep on making the world's worst car in a smaller version?

Surely, the people at Jaguar know how dismally unreliable and fragile their big fast cars have been for such a long time. Would one expect them to keep on making the same mistakes when they completely retool and redesign a car for a different market niche?
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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The newer Jaguars are more reliable, so you are off base there. Also, the 4 cylinder is a Ford engine, so I don't see it having any problems.
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:46 AM
 
Location: SW France
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Let me get this straight- in the US you can get the XF with a 2.0 litre petrol engine?

I ask that because that engine is not fitted to the XF over here as far as I am aware.



Edit- I have answered my own question by checking out the Jaguar USA site.

As American Luxury says it looks like it is the Ford Ecoboost engine.
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Is there any reason to believe that Jaguar has made a decent entry into the economical car class? Or can one presume that they will just keep on making the world's worst car in a smaller version?

Surely, the people at Jaguar know how dismally unreliable and fragile their big fast cars have been for such a long time. Would one expect them to keep on making the same mistakes when they completely retool and redesign a car for a different market niche?
No.

Unless you consider a $46,000 car to be in the economical car class. Since that's double the price of everyone else's economical cars and the point of economical car is to be economical, I'd say it's a lousy entry.
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:57 AM
 
Location: anywhere but Seattle
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WTF is this thread about?
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Seems to be about whether the Jaguar XF is a good competitor to the Honda Civic?
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:12 PM
 
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People who buy the XF can afford the gas to put in it. Stupid idea this is.
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Might as well just buy a Ford if that's what you're getting anyways.
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Old 03-31-2013, 03:13 PM
 
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People who buy the XF can afford the gas to put in it. Stupid idea this is.
I see you havent heard of a 528i or E250.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review
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Old 03-31-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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I see you don't know the real reason for those. That's because people may want a luxury car of that size yet people may not be able to afford them. It's just a cheaper way to get people to buy in and still have the content which appealed to them in the first place. How do you think the 7 series starts at around 75k and it still has most of the features that you can get in higher end trims. I didn't look at the links because I don't care. The Mercedes is built with the sole purpose of being a more fuel efficient option which you pay more for. It's too different than the XF and 528i which are both just a cheaper model to make it easier to buy into the range.

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