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Many people, in one of my job hunting classes, are feed up with Human Resources and hiring managers who act like Detective Joe Friday (from Dragnet) and aggressively ask why they lost their job after a layoff. Still to this day many people assume that if you lost your job you were likely fired. They will probe and probe for the real reason the candidate lost their job. They do not believe that they were laid off, instead they feel the applicant was in fact fired for cause and they are using the word layoff to hire their incompetence.
If you were fired in the past, did you tell potential employers that you were laid off. Is there really a difference in the opinion of the hiring manager? If you were any good anyway would they lay you off?
Many people, in one of my job hunting classes, are feed up with Human Resources and hiring managers who act like Detective Joe Friday (from Dragnet) and aggressively ask why they lost their job after a layoff. Still to this day many people assume that if you lost your job you were likely fired. They will probe and probe for the real reason the candidate lost their job. They do not believe that they were laid off, instead they feel the applicant was in fact fired for cause and they are using the word layoff to hire their incompetence.
If you were fired in the past, did you tell potential employers that you were laid off. Is there really a difference in the opinion of the hiring manager? If you were any good anyway would they lay you off?
I think your right, I think they do make that assumption even though a little research would show differently.
I got laid off because I had been there longer and was making more money, I was in the first wave of layoffs with a HUGE group of people who also made more money.
The company declared bankruptcy and tried to hide it from the employees, I tried to warn my friends who remained behind to start looking but they didn't listen. The following year after they had closed all but one of their offices, the word came out they would be closing the office here in Lake Mary Florida and everyone who was not willing to move to Texas would be let go with NO SEVERANCE. At least I got severance.
A simple call to the company would tell them these facts are true but I get alot of people assuming I am lying from what I can tell.
I think hiring managers have the right to make sure the person that they are interviewing is not using the economy as a cover up for past performance, incompetency or just firings. Desperate people will lie in order to get a job. The role of the interviewer is to assess the talent and sincerity of their work history, performance etc. Asking questions gets that done so I think it's justified.
As for who gets laid off. It's not just people who aren't performing (and in a good company those people would have already been terminated if managed properly). Salary, department costs, needs and many other factors go into mass layoffs. It's not just the non-performers getting the axe but many people who have significant experience and success as well.
If you're worried about that, just assure them that your old supervisor will give you a great reference. That should handle any concerns about it not being a true layoff
Many people who were fired can get a good reference
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Originally Posted by tabbcat
If you're worried about that, just assure them that your old supervisor will give you a great reference. That should handle any concerns about it not being a true layoff
Many old managers will feel sorry for the person who they fired and give a good reference just so the person can get back on their feet. Especially if they were let go due to office politics or they made a good effort to perform but just did not have the skills.
If you assure them that you come with good references, and that's not enough to stop them questioning the layoff, then that's one hell of a neurotic interviewer you've got on your hands. You can't account for everyone being completely sane or reasonable.
Are these 'HR people' under damn rocks or something? There is a serious recession in this country. Obviously many, many people were laid off.
Oh, yeah, everyone at GM was 'fired,' like all the real estate and mortgage people and everyone else involved in the hundreds of industries that crapped out since last Fall.
Are these 'HR people' under damn rocks or something? There is a serious recession in this country. Obviously many, many people were laid off.
Oh, yeah, everyone at GM was 'fired,' like all the real estate and mortgage people and everyone else involved in the hundreds of industries that crapped out since last Fall.
Someone please rep this person for me. I am on rep lockdown. Grrrr!
Yep, I was "fired" along with 6000+ other people. We must have really screwed something up in that company. And I'm sure my old manager will feel "sorry" for me and write untruths about my work. But, oh yeah, she and her entire department were part of that 6000+ too.
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Many people who were fired can get a good reference
