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I get it. Just because someone else acts like a scumbag that means I can too!
Thanks for clearing that up champ!
No it means leveling the playing field. If the rules for everyone else including employers is pretty much anything goes so long as it is not illegal (or in some cases is illegal), I'm not going to put myself at a disadvantage. I'm not going to be a sacrificial lamb, stick to my high ideals, and end up jobless and homeless. Sorry, the time for idealism has passed for me, time for a dose of pure undiluted pragmatism.
It is a sad commentary on our society, but we are living in sad times.
I've seen this happen in lower level positions that don't require much training. I've seen people in healthcare do this. I've never seen anyone go far doing this though.
Most places I applied for a job had me fill out a employment application which had a section asking for three people who they could contact and discuss my qualifications and experiences. This was not for the purposes of a verification of employment, but instead so the employer could find out about your previous work experiences and what type of employee you were.
Trouble is I just left a job of five years that I was fired from. They said I was a bad fit. I never went through any progressive discipline process of a warning and proformance improvement plan, one day they just fired me. I was blind sided! Now I have no professional references because my last employer told everyone not to respond to reference calls including my old bosses and coworkers.
So I had to move to plan b. That was getting three Google Voice Mail accounts and having myself, my wife and my brother have professional sounding messages acting like we were business people. So after a bit of interviewing I became a finalist for a job and they asked me if it was OK to call my professional references. So a Professional Background Check Company called me and my two other fake professional references and asked questions about me. My wife and brother using fake names, did great after being coached on what to say. I of course said wonderful things about myself using a fake name. We threw in a few development issues and small personal weaknesses to make it seem honest.
I got the job and my boss told me to thank my Professional References for getting back to the people who did the check so quickly. My employment was verified at my last three employers and as per my agreement with my last employer, they did not say I was fired.
Is honesty always the best policy. No, not in today's world!
You got the job! Good for you! Who cares if you lied. If your employer did a better reference check they would have caught it. Dumb-asses! I do not exately have 3 profersional references I want to list, I would have given my friends names in a heart beat.
Most places I applied for a job had me fill out a employment application which had a section asking for three people who they could contact and discuss my qualifications and experiences. This was not for the purposes of a verification of employment, but instead so the employer could find out about your previous work experiences and what type of employee you were.
Trouble is I just left a job of five years that I was fired from. They said I was a bad fit. I never went through any progressive discipline process of a warning and proformance improvement plan, one day they just fired me. I was blind sided! Now I have no professional references because my last employer told everyone not to respond to reference calls including my old bosses and coworkers.
So I had to move to plan b. That was getting three Google Voice Mail accounts and having myself, my wife and my brother have professional sounding messages acting like we were business people. So after a bit of interviewing I became a finalist for a job and they asked me if it was OK to call my professional references. So a Professional Background Check Company called me and my two other fake professional references and asked questions about me. My wife and brother using fake names, did great after being coached on what to say. I of course said wonderful things about myself using a fake name. We threw in a few development issues and small personal weaknesses to make it seem honest.
I got the job and my boss told me to thank my Professional References for getting back to the people who did the check so quickly. My employment was verified at my last three employers and as per my agreement with my last employer, they did not say I was fired.
Is honesty always the best policy. No, not in today's world!
My good man, Karma is a *****. Getting a job by deceit WILL bite you in the butt eventually. Enjoy your job while you have it, because when your boss finds out (let's hope he doesn't read CD), you won't have it long.
My good man, Karma is a *****. Getting a job by deceit WILL bite you in the butt eventually. Enjoy your job while you have it, because when your boss finds out (let's hope he doesn't read CD), you won't have it long.
It's actually pretty pathetic. Not only the actual act of what you did, but to want to share it with other people. At the very least you would hope someone as least could recognize what they did was wrong and not want to flaunt it.
Man, congrats. Most of these posts are nothing but negative nancys. Screw them all. Sure, you lied but you were extremely creative which is way more important than people realize.
So if he gets this job, they magically find out, and he gets fired...how is that worse than never getting the job.
You people need to get off your high horse and realize this world is filled lies. In all seriousness, this is the definition of a white collar lie. Its really if he is a good fit for the job or not if he gets it. As any employer called a reference on more than one occasion?
I've used family members and friends as professional references and several of my friends have done the same. You have to be half a retard to think people are 100% honest to get a job.
Grow the F up people. Step out of that bubble and walk outside to your closest downtown area, you may overhear profanity!!!
Run for the hills!!!
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