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Old 01-18-2011, 09:21 PM
 
Location: NJ
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This article is from a non-profit site but would be relevant anywhere.

The 24-Step Modern Resume

"What’s the difference between a computerized ATS (Applicant Tracking System) and a black hole?

Not much, if you don’t know which aspects of your resume give you a good ranking vs. what makes these software programs choke.

...... the professionals who use this technology — to unlock these mysterious black boxes to figure out how they handle your resume. We also spent time with these pros to figure out how your resume gets handled by other computer systems, including e-mail security screening."


Hope this helps someone.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:49 AM
 
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This article is from a non-profit site but would be relevant anywhere.

The 24-Step Modern Resume

[color="DarkSlateBlue"][color="DarkRed"]"What’s the difference between a computerized ATS (Applicant Tracking System) and a black hole?
For whatever it's worth, this didn't originate from the non-profit site,
it came from (authored by) TheLadders.com - I read the article
not long ago.

I disagree with a couple of points - it becomes a burden to alter a
resume to match a position. If your resume is carefully crafted to
match your experience and skills, and you're wanting to respond to
a job posting, and you have to alter your resume to match, then
that position is probably not a good match. Also, you have to come
up with a way to organize your custom resumes to match the
job posting - if the employer responds to you, you'll have to hunt
down that version of the resume.

The best tactic to handle this is with a cover letter - the cover letter
is supposed to "speak" to the job posting.

As a side-note, a friend of mine and I were discussing this article
and he mentioned he was surprised the article didn't mention the
ol' "white font" resume trick. I told him that isn't a good idea,
because if discovered, he could be labeled as deceitful. Anyway,
it is a good article, overall.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:08 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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In a recent survey less than 10% of HR departments surveyed answered that they even read cover letters. Those that do only glanced at them. I would not rely on cover letters to accomplish much. I'll see if I can can find the article.

It makes sense it is much easier to glance and blow though resumes than open and read a cover letter.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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I thought is was a good article. Then again it is coming from the Ladders
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Marion, IN
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I would sure like to know who these companies are that use this kind of technology. No place I ever worked is near that sophisticated.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:39 AM
 
Location: The DMV
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I disagree with a couple of points - it becomes a burden to alter a
resume to match a position. If your resume is carefully crafted to
match your experience and skills, and you're wanting to respond to
a job posting, and you have to alter your resume to match, then
that position is probably not a good match. Also, you have to come
up with a way to organize your custom resumes to match the
job posting - if the employer responds to you, you'll have to hunt
down that version of the resume.

I don't think being a burden automatically discounts the validity of the exercise. I mean, I find it tiresome to have to proofread my resume/coverletter multiple times....

But I'm also biased as I do this. The altering is basically wording that matches their job description. It's not changing what your saying, but just how you say it. Don't find it much of a burden either. I have a stock resume template, and for every job I apply to, I simply modify the file name to track which firm/position it was used with.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:27 AM
 
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I would sure like to know who these companies are that use this kind of technology. No place I ever worked is near that sophisticated.
Most recruiting firms and large organizations do. Case in point,
most every recruiter I'm dealing with uses an automated system.

Another example: I was following up with a recruiter about a job
posting I submitted for. Turns out it's for a very large Oil&Gas,
who uses many recruiting firms (upwards of 20+). (Funny side
note: my brother submitted for the same position through
another recruiting firm).

The recruiter explained to me the company "blankets" all the
recruiting firms with the posting and then accepts up to 3 candidates
from each of the recruiting firms (~20 x 3 = 60 candidates). He said
the company then runs the candidate resumes through the ATS to
reduce the final candidate count. Finally, the hiring manager/etc
then manually reads each of the resultant resumes, choosing,
probably, 6 candidates for interviews.

Could your imagine being a "Robert Half" recruiting agency posting
a "common" position out at CareerBuilder - i.e. the amount of
resume responses you'd get? My recruiter at R.H. says if he posts,
say, a "business analyst" or "java programmer" listing, he'll get
upwards of 100-200 resume submissions. It would be difficult at
best to manually (by a human) scan each resume.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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[snipped] The altering is basically wording that matches their job description. It's not changing what your saying, but just how you say it. Don't find it much of a burden either. I have a stock resume template, and for every job I apply to, I simply modify the file name to track which firm/position it was used with.
Understood. I've done something similar ... rather than using
a "template" and altering/saving as a new resume (to match the
job posting), I'll add any keywords to the "Core Competencies"
section of the resume and leave everything else alone. So, in
effect, the Core Competencies grows, yet I only have one
version of my resume.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:48 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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I am pretty sure this is where I read the stat though it is not the primary source.
http://www.recareered.com/blog/2010/...-cover-letter/
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Old 01-19-2011, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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I spent a few years trying to change jobs several years ago. Funny thing is I am still at a job that I love. One interesting thing though is that after I stopped actively looking for a job someone found my resume online. The employer was searching for people with MBA's of which I happen to have. I even decided to interview with them to see what they had to offer. During the interview I mentioned that my employment background was far from a match with the job that they were offering. I asked how I would make a good fit in their organization? The VP that was interviewing me told me that the reason I was there was because they only searched for individuals that had an MBA and lived within a set geographic area. I met the requirements so there I was. Still I ended up staying with my current employer. My point here is that they searched electronically till they found select people that had an MBA and lived within a geographic area. Everything else was not relavent to them.

Another point I would like to make. My brother hires everyone at his company. He could care less that 500 people send a resume in or fill out an application. As soon as he has his 10 or 15 applicants that he wants to look at, he weeds that down to 4 or 5 and goes from there. Meaning, He will probably only look at 10 or 15 resumes all together. And he doesn't have the time to read everything including a cover letter.
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