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Old 05-16-2011, 03:08 PM
 
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Probably a quarter of the job ads on Monster, News Papers, Craig's List etc... are not even serious. They're just collecting resumes or pulling a stunt per the above.

That's why lots of people have the experience of sending out hundreds of resumes for jobs, a lot which they're over qualified for, and never getting a call or information/feedback back.

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I've been job hunting for a brief time (going back about a month ago) and I haven't received a single call back. After some discouragement, I started back up this weekend. So, we'll see where it goes. But you bring up a very interesting point for all of us to ponder.
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Old 05-16-2011, 03:51 PM
 
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I've been job hunting for a brief time (going back about a month ago) and I haven't received a single call back. After some discouragement, I started back up this weekend. So, we'll see where it goes. But you bring up a very interesting point for all of us to ponder.

Ya, it gets discouraging, but you can't ever give up. You just have to keep applying, even to places you would normally never work. Never give up, never surrender!
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Old 05-16-2011, 03:58 PM
 
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Most people on my staff actually live in NJ, and work in NYC.
Not too bad of a commute, but would be more enjoyable eventually if your Governor hadn't killed off the tunnel project.
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Old 05-17-2011, 05:50 AM
 
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Probably a quarter of the job ads on Monster, News Papers, Craig's List etc... are not even serious. They're just collecting resumes or pulling a stunt per the above.

That's why lots of people have the experience of sending out hundreds of resumes for jobs, a lot which they're over qualified for, and never getting a call or information/feedback back.

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About 10% of available jobs make it to employment websites. If you are relying on them solely for employment, it is going to be a long hunt!
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Old 05-17-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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This video shows very well that US business is playing a game. They do not want to hire a US worker. The lawyer is giving a road map to get around US labor laws. This is very common in IT. Make a job ad with a list of skills longer then my arm. Then by magic they find someone in India bring them in by h1b. Or they use a bodyshop from India. It is all a joke.
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:18 AM
 
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This is why when you go into the department of labor, you see positions like "CEO" on their outdated software.

What former or current CEO is in a DOL office?

BTW, this is a very old video and is from before 2007.
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:23 AM
 
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This video shows very well that US business is playing a game. They do not want to hire a US worker. The lawyer is giving a road map to get around US labor laws. This is very common in IT. Make a job ad with a list of skills longer then my arm. Then by magic they find someone in India bring them in by h1b. Or they use a bodyshop from India. It is all a joke.
Well, except you have people in IT in America in this thread saying they are having a hard time finding people for actual IT positions.

There are currently 65,000 H1B visas awarded per year. This includes architects, engineers, computer programmers, accountants, doctors, veterinarian, dentist, registered nurse, business managers, and college professors.

Also I don't think using H1B is easy to fill an immediate need. The cap for a given year is reached so you can't have a need in March and fill it by April or May by bringing someone in on an H1B visa, you'd have to wait for the next years pool for your petition.
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:25 AM
 
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parttimetechie, unless you have another way to advance your skill set to get a $30K+cost of living wage job, then the military is still a good option.

Some who are trained in the military are highly sought after post service. BTW, no I'm not talking about army. And believe it or not, but regular cannon fodder is not needed.

I was told, "Anyone who scored below a 90 on the ASVAB was sent back" when I went for testing.

Besides, they have nearly the same positions they have on the outside.
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:56 AM
 
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Agreed employers are creating their own shortages. They seem to magically expect a person to drop in to their lap who has pretty much done this exact position before to the point of knowing their own proprietary stuff. They then think this person should take the position for a pay cut or on contract. When this doesn't happen they scream that there is a shortage and Americans don't have the skills they are looking for.

It happens a lot in science. Science has nearly infinite niches and specialization and employers think there is a shortage because they can't find one with 10 years experience in their exact niche. Yet there are tons of qualified scientists out there who can if they get the training and do there homework thrive in the position.

Maybe I haven't run the Fisher Thermomatic DNA sequencer 945.6C on a Thursday before but if you gave me the user guide I bet I could figure it out.
Of course they are. I totally agree. They whine that they can't find workers but they expect every worker to have skills in that exact environment. Why can't a teacher who has worked with troubled kids in a classroom work with troubled kids as a case manager? Actually, the teacher with experience teaching a class of 15 troubled kids may actually have more skills and expertise than the case manager who has worked with troubled kids on a one-on-one basis. However, the teacher will never get hired as a case manager because the teacher has never worked in a case management environment even though both jobs require similar skills.

Honestly, what are we supposed to do? Go $250,000 in debt and get trained in many, many areas? Okay, so if we do that, then we are stuck with $250,000 in debt to pay off. Although I still think many employers wouldn't hire even with several degrees and training certificates because you don't have on-the-job experience. Exactly how do you get this experience if no one hires? I am starting to see why people lie on their resumes and job applications.
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:59 AM
 
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parttimetechie, unless you have another way to advance your skill set to get a $30K+cost of living wage job, then the military is still a good option.

Some who are trained in the military are highly sought after post service. BTW, no I'm not talking about army. And believe it or not, but regular cannon fodder is not needed.

I was told, "Anyone who scored below a 90 on the ASVAB was sent back" when I went for testing.

Besides, they have nearly the same positions they have on the outside.
I would LOVE a living wage job. I have considered the military, but I get discouraged thinking I will automatically be rejected because I am an asthmatic.
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