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Old 06-13-2011, 05:34 PM
 
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:40 PM
 
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Ninety percent of us have jobs so we're doing something right.
Of the 90%, how many of you landed your jobs before these asinine requirements became the common rule?

And also, of the 90%, how many are fully employed at one job?
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:46 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Most of these aren't new.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:16 PM
 
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I once saw a futuristic movie, where they would just swab your cheek, DNA determined what type of job you could get, where you could live...

It is not that far off.

I thank god every day that I have a good job. I know I am lucky. It took work to get where I am, and sacrifice. Believe me. No one handed me this job on a platter. And I work routinely 60 hours a week. These days, employers get their money's worth, that is for sure.

We are all one paycheck away from collecting UI. That is the new mindset, don't buy a house, because if you lose your job, you won't be able to move to get a new one.
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:20 PM
 
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Actually - his point is valid. Yes, the economy sucks and a lot of people are trying to find work and are having financial issues. But the simple truth is that a lot of people are doing quite well, both professionally and financially, and many people are interviewing for jobs and are getting them.



I can cite plenty of anecdotes to disprove these points. I know a fair number of people, including myself, who have landed corporate positions in the last 1.5 years that were unemployed at the time they were hired, were in their mid-30's to early-40's, and do not feel they are being underpaid. Can't speak for credit scores as I don't ask my friends about that. And, yes, more experienced people are more likely to get an offer - that is nothing new.
They may not feel underpaid but it looks like they are in the age range of what is considered employable. People that are 16-25 and 45+ are hit the hardest.
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:24 PM
 
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Most of these aren't new.
I believe prior to the Internet becoming mainstream (early 90's) I don't think things like credit and background checks were as commonly used. Nowadays you can find out anything about anyone easily, quick, and inexpensive.
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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The biggest issue these days are the online applications. I much prefer going in and personally turning the application in myself and speaking with the manager.
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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I believe prior to the Internet becoming mainstream (early 90's) I don't think things like credit and background checks were as commonly used. Nowadays you can find out anything about anyone easily, quick, and inexpensive.
Yes, there is LOT's of second hand data all over the net and some of it may even be for the particular "Jason Smith from Elmira" that you think you're interviewing or considering...

But when you go to Jason's prior employers and ask for corroborating data or anything of consequence about Jason and specially the subjective things... more often you'll hit a blank wall of vague and inconclusive.

CONSEQUENTLY... employers look to what sources remain for accurate and objective data on the specific person.

What's there is there and how well an employer uses the data is what it is.

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The biggest issue these days are the online applications.
I much prefer going in and personally turning the application in myself and speaking with the manager.
Agreed.
Somehow or other... getting your face in front of the decision maker is the ONLY way to get hired.
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:53 AM
 
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Of the 90%, how many of you landed your jobs before these asinine requirements became the common rule?

And also, of the 90%, how many are fully employed at one job?
I was hired in early 2005 at my company.

I went through a background check (one that I had to provide proof of employment with a company who had shut its doors in 2000), FBI background check, fingerprint check, credit check, educational verification, etc.

In 2009, I went through the background and credit check again by my employer. I knew people whose credit and background came back with enough dings that they were terminated because they no longer met appropriate risk levels for the bonding requirements.

In the past, I have had the same things happen as well as a drug test all the way back to 1998 when I first started having corporate jobs. The FBI and fingerprinting were done at financial companies not for other general types of companies.

These things are NOT new.

I should also add that for a particular airline where I worked part time-- I also had to go through another type of background check including an interview with a nurse to see if I were medically fit for the position.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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My point is, what are these people suppose to do with themselves? Try the public sector? Yeah right... they have all the same requirements plus affirmative action quotas.
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