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Old 06-14-2011, 11:40 AM
 
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My point is, what are these people suppose to do with themselves? Try the public sector? Yeah right... they have all the same requirements plus affirmative action quotas.
Just work for themselves and not rely on others to hire them. You'd be surprised how many people complain about employers and still choose to put up with them
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:53 AM
 
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Just work for themselves and not rely on others to hire them. You'd be surprised how many people complain about employers and still choose to put up with them
Any examples?
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:55 AM
 
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Any examples?
Examples of people complaining about employers or examples of people working for themselves?
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:58 AM
 
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My point is, what are these people suppose to do with themselves?
They need to identify what is preventing them from being hired, or from winding up at the top of the candidate lists in interviews, and then identify ways in which they can make themselves more competitive and work to make that happen.

That may help for a given individual or it may not. But it certainly seems to be more proactive than complaining about how picky employers are and waiting for things to turn around - not that all of these observations and criticisms are without merit (you bring up some very valid points), but, at the end of the day, this is the current reality, so one either has to find a way to navigate through this themselves, or they are going to sink.
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Old 06-14-2011, 12:24 PM
 
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Examples of people complaining about employers or examples of people working for themselves?
Examples of people working for themselves.
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Old 06-14-2011, 12:31 PM
 
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Examples of people working for themselves.
The 25 Best-Paying Jobs for Self-Employed Workers — America's Career Publisher :: Occupational Outlook Handbook and Career Publications (http://www.jist.com/shop/web/best-jobs-lists/the-25-best-paying-jobs-for-self-employed-workers - broken link)
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Old 06-14-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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The 25 Best-Paying Jobs for Self-Employed Workers — America's Career Publisher :: Occupational Outlook Handbook and Career Publications (http://www.jist.com/shop/web/best-jobs-lists/the-25-best-paying-jobs-for-self-employed-workers - broken link)
Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons 15.7% $145,600+ 16.2% <500
2. Orthodontists 35.9% $145,600+ 12.8% 1,000
3. Prosthodontists 38.2% $145,600+ 13.6% <500
4. Chief Executives 16.2% $142,440 14.9% 38,000
5. Government Service Executives 16.2% $142,440 14.9% 38,000
6. Private Sector Executives 16.2% $142,440 14.9% 38,000
7. Dentists, General 30.7% $125,300 13.5% 7,000
8. Podiatrists 19.8% $100,550 16.2% 1,000
9. Lawyers 24.1% $98,930 15.0% 40,000
10. Optometrists 27.4% $88,040 19.7% 2,000
11. Industrial-Organizational Psychologists 37.6% $84,690 20.4% <500
12. Construction Managers 54.2% $72,260 10.4% 28,000
13. Veterinarians 20.7% $68,910 17.4% 8,000
14. Chiropractors 49.2% $67,200 22.4% 4,000
15. Sales Agents, Financial Services 12.5% $67,130 11.5% 37,000
16. Sales Agents, Securities and Commodities 12.5% $67,130 11.5% 37,000
17. Management Analysts 24.7% $66,380 20.1% 82,000
18. Art Directors 55.8% $63,950 11.5% 10,000
19. Personal Financial Advisors 38.9% $63,500 25.9% 17,000
20. Architects, Except Landscape and Naval 20.1% $62,850 17.3% 7,000
21. First-Line Supervisors/Managers of Non-Retail Sales Workers 37.1% $61,970 1.9% 38,000
22. Network Systems and Data Communications Analysts 19.9% $61,750 54.6% 43,000
23. Fashion Designers 26.5% $60,860 8.4% 2,000
24. Real Estate Brokers 59.9% $57,190 7.8% 12,000
25. Clinical Psychologists 38.2% $57,170 19.1% 10,000

A lot of these jobs would require you to go to medical or law school, most people can't afford to go +100k in debt to obtain these positions.
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Old 06-14-2011, 12:48 PM
 
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Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons 15.7% $145,600+ 16.2% <500
2. Orthodontists 35.9% $145,600+ 12.8% 1,000
3. Prosthodontists 38.2% $145,600+ 13.6% <500
4. Chief Executives 16.2% $142,440 14.9% 38,000
5. Government Service Executives 16.2% $142,440 14.9% 38,000
6. Private Sector Executives 16.2% $142,440 14.9% 38,000
7. Dentists, General 30.7% $125,300 13.5% 7,000
8. Podiatrists 19.8% $100,550 16.2% 1,000
9. Lawyers 24.1% $98,930 15.0% 40,000
10. Optometrists 27.4% $88,040 19.7% 2,000
11. Industrial-Organizational Psychologists 37.6% $84,690 20.4% <500
12. Construction Managers 54.2% $72,260 10.4% 28,000
13. Veterinarians 20.7% $68,910 17.4% 8,000
14. Chiropractors 49.2% $67,200 22.4% 4,000
15. Sales Agents, Financial Services 12.5% $67,130 11.5% 37,000
16. Sales Agents, Securities and Commodities 12.5% $67,130 11.5% 37,000
17. Management Analysts 24.7% $66,380 20.1% 82,000
18. Art Directors 55.8% $63,950 11.5% 10,000
19. Personal Financial Advisors 38.9% $63,500 25.9% 17,000
20. Architects, Except Landscape and Naval 20.1% $62,850 17.3% 7,000
21. First-Line Supervisors/Managers of Non-Retail Sales Workers 37.1% $61,970 1.9% 38,000
22. Network Systems and Data Communications Analysts 19.9% $61,750 54.6% 43,000
23. Fashion Designers 26.5% $60,860 8.4% 2,000
24. Real Estate Brokers 59.9% $57,190 7.8% 12,000
25. Clinical Psychologists 38.2% $57,170 19.1% 10,000

A lot of these jobs would require you to go to medical or law school, most people can't afford to go +100k in debt to obtain these positions.
It was just the first list I found. Most of these jobs do not require a medical or law degree. These are also the highest paying jobs. There are many other jobs such as carpenter, dog walker, accountant, freelance writer, etc that aren't on the list.
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Old 06-14-2011, 04:07 PM
 
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It was just the first list I found. Most of these jobs do not require a medical or law degree. These are also the highest paying jobs. There are many other jobs such as carpenter, dog walker, accountant, freelance writer, etc that aren't on the list.
I had a friend who was unemployed for over a year and got by in the DC/VA/MD area working as a dog walker, pet sitter, house sitter.

He lived lean-- but he was able to get by until he got a new job.
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Old 06-14-2011, 06:53 PM
 
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I had a friend who was unemployed for over a year and got by in the DC/VA/MD area working as a dog walker, pet sitter, house sitter.

He lived lean-- but he was able to get by until he got a new job.
Excellent! Good for him! I knew a bunch of people that sold stuff on eBay in college just to raise enough money for food and textbooks. There's a lot of little things that people can do to help out.

There are professional dog walkers that earn enough to be considered gainfully employed. And they aren't dealing with background checks, crappy management decisions and layoffs.
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