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Old 08-13-2011, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Santa Ana
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does this mean lying on your resume?
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Old 08-13-2011, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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does this mean lying on your resume?
No, it means leaving out experience and possibly even select academic achievements that are not relevant or needed for the job you are applying for.

If you take a moment and read the threads leading up to this one, you may get a clearer picture of what were talking about.
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Old 08-13-2011, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Imagine that! News articles like this one don't help either!

Job listings say the unemployed need not apply | The Lookout - Yahoo! News
I find that really disturbing and frankly, disgusting that they would do that. They don't want to hire those who are unemployed...who do they think is applying for their jobs?

I get it that some people are employed and want to move up or move on but an unemployed worker, especially one who has been out of work for 6 months or longer will probably be your BEST employee because they are so thankful to have the job, know how rough it is out there and will do whatever they can to ensure that they KEEP that job!

These people are not thinking clearly. In their mind it's, "Oh, they must be undesirable"...no, it's that 100 people or more are applying for 1 job. We can't all get the same job!

I'm lucky, I got my job because of a connection and to be honest, that seems to be the way to go these days. Get a connection and get in. And once you're in, STAY in.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Santa Ana
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No, it means leaving out experience and possibly even select academic achievements that are not relevant or needed for the job you are applying for.

If you take a moment and read the threads leading up to this one, you may get a clearer picture of what were talking about.
yeah i've always felt skeptical about leaving out my previous job because i was fired from there, but unfortuneately that was my first and only job, and in this ****ty economy, employers don't want someone who is inexperienced and they don't want someone who has been fired either
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Old 08-14-2011, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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yeah i've always felt skeptical about leaving out my previous job because i was fired from there, but unfortuneately that was my first and only job, and in this ****ty economy, employers don't want someone who is inexperienced and they don't want someone who has been fired either
Ok, you're in a slightly different position than the type of situation I'm referring to. In your case, you don't want to leave that job out, especially if you were there for a while. In my opinion, not all terminations are bad. If you were caught stealing, going to work high or drunk, committing sexual harrassment on the premises, ect... , then you will face an issue. If it was something else, like the result of a highly contested accident investigation, or some type of misunderstanding that failed to get resolved in your favor, you can always explain what happened.

I don't leave work history off my resume unless it is beyond the 15 year mark, or unless my time there was extremely short. You want to avoid gaps in the timeline. I'm referring more to leaving out credentials or specific experience gained at a particular job. You WANT to put the job down on the resume, but word it in a way that sheds the best light on you without overdoing it. With your limited experience, you are in the opposite position to what this thread is about. Once you gain a certain ammount of work history and experience under your belt, you will see what I'm talking about. Hopefully, when that time comes around, the economy will be much improved from its current state.
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Old 08-15-2011, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Santa Ana
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Ok, you're in a slightly different position than the type of situation I'm referring to. In your case, you don't want to leave that job out, especially if you were there for a while. In my opinion, not all terminations are bad. If you were caught stealing, going to work high or drunk, committing sexual harrassment on the premises, ect... , then you will face an issue. If it was something else, like the result of a highly contested accident investigation, or some type of misunderstanding that failed to get resolved in your favor, you can always explain what happened.

I don't leave work history off my resume unless it is beyond the 15 year mark, or unless my time there was extremely short. You want to avoid gaps in the timeline. I'm referring more to leaving out credentials or specific experience gained at a particular job. You WANT to put the job down on the resume, but word it in a way that sheds the best light on you without overdoing it. With your limited experience, you are in the opposite position to what this thread is about. Once you gain a certain ammount of work history and experience under your belt, you will see what I'm talking about. Hopefully, when that time comes around, the economy will be much improved from its current state.
I left that job 4 years ago, but can employers find out why you were fired, or just any information regarding why you left your previous job? because I heard, as in people have told me, that it is illegal for employers to find out some type of information regarding your previous jobs, which type of information are they allowed to seek out and not find out? i'm not an expect, not really familiar with how the employment backround check works
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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I left that job 4 years ago, but can employers find out why you were fired, or just any information regarding why you left your previous job? because I heard, as in people have told me, that it is illegal for employers to find out some type of information regarding your previous jobs, which type of information are they allowed to seek out and not find out? i'm not an expect, not really familiar with how the employment backround check works
I could be wrong on this, but I believe they can ask these three things about a previous employee:

1.) Confirm the time span the employee was with the company.
2.) Confirm the nature of the separation (terminated, quit, asked to resign, ect,), but not the reason for it.
3.) Ask the employer if they would rehire you if given the opportunity (yes or no question only).
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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How many people out there omit some (or all) of their achievements to find any kind of work?
I've definitely done it. I think it helped me get my part-time job at a bookstore when I was unemployed.

I felt like I'd rather get any work than to stay on UE and watch it run out.
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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I've definitely done it. I think it helped me get my part-time job at a bookstore when I was unemployed.

I felt like I'd rather get any work than to stay on UE and watch it run out.
Agree. I don't believe that the unemployment statistics count people who are not on it, or their share of benefits has ran out, either. So, whatever figure the media gives, I generally double it at minimum. In my area of Oregon, I think the true unemployment rate is around 25%. The media says it's under 10%.
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:12 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Can we get rid of the "Dumbing Down" phrase? You are basically changing your resume to fit certain jobs.
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