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Old 01-23-2012, 06:31 AM
 
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Many of my job hunting friends are frustrated at the recent requirement at many employers- BEFORE THEY WILL INTERVIEW YOU IN PERSON THEY NEED TO DO A COMPLETE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION AND PROFESSIONAL REFERENCE CHECK.

The result is their very busy professional references are called multiple times and start to get frustrated.

My job hunting friends hate this requirement because they waste valuable political capital with their professional references and in many cases are not even interested in the job after meeting their potential boss and coworkers, hearing about the position and seeing the offices. So everyones time is wasted.

It just seems more logical to check professional references after an interview and once both parties decide they are very interested. The employers perspective is that time is money and because the cost of outsourced employment background investigation services is way down, it is a better investment to only talk to people who are prechecked.

Have you experienced this in your job search?
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:43 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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This is common with staffing agencies and some recruiters. They are more interested in getting the names of managers for their sales dept than checking your references. Most companies will only check references after an interview and before an offer.
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:58 AM
 
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How do I feel about it? Candidates should refuse. Politely. Tell the interviewer that you value your references and their time, as they are busy professionals. Tell them you are happy to provide that information as the last stage in the hiring process, or close to the last stage.

You know, it says a lot about the employer if they ask you this. It is not even good practice to have employers who have yet to even narrow down their candidates to take up references' time like that. They are busy too!

I feel strongly about this. I take my references seriously. I line them up early and make 100% sure they are ok with being called. If more applicants refused, perhaps this stupid trend will be less prevalent.

How common is this anyway? I have had this happen to me once, and I obliged. It wasn't even that good a job. I was wrong to oblige.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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Seriously, I would refuse to do this until the company is ready to consider an offer. This is especially true when your job hunt is a secret from your current employer. I would probably not pursue this job if they demand this type of intrusion before they're ready to make an offer.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:10 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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Most staffing agencies won't work with you if you refuse which frankly is not much of a loss. Businesses will check references as a last step because it costs money (they frequently farm this out to background checking services but if not it takes up HR time).
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Old 01-23-2012, 01:26 PM
 
Location: The City That Never Sleeps
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The fact that recruiters and temp agencies hound references is the main reason why I stopped using them a long time ago. Many of them bother refs knowing that they won't offer work to the candidate. They also use refs to solicit business and sell their service to your reference. Seriously not good. I'm not interested in losing my references because of some recruiter/"agent".
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: St Pete
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Like others have mentioned, I do not give reference until the very end of the process. I don't want my former co-workers / clients bugged unneccessary by head hunters.
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Old 01-23-2012, 03:05 PM
 
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How do I feel about it? Candidates should refuse. Politely. Tell the interviewer that you value your references and their time, as they are busy professionals. Tell them you are happy to provide that information as the last stage in the hiring process, or close to the last stage.

You know, it says a lot about the employer if they ask you this. It is not even good practice to have employers who have yet to even narrow down their candidates to take up references' time like that. They are busy too!

I feel strongly about this. I take my references seriously. I line them up early and make 100% sure they are ok with being called. If more applicants refused, perhaps this stupid trend will be less prevalent.

How common is this anyway? I have had this happen to me once, and I obliged. It wasn't even that good a job. I was wrong to oblige.
Exactly. That last thing you want to do is have your references get annoyed by being called too much.

It should be at the end of the interview process.
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