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Old 06-24-2012, 10:01 PM
 
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i agree with the OP of this thread
Of course you do.
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:03 AM
 
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you're not fooling anyone.
wasn't trying to hide anymore, i'm already admitting that my other accounts got deleted, i still stand by my argument
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:21 AM
 
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some people even have school or volunteer work, but they still do not get hired, the reason why a person should get hired is because thats the only way they will get experience, it should not be late for something in life like employment, people can change you know
No, the reason why a person should get hired is because I have a particular job spot I want to fill and I need to hire someone capable of doing the work. I was running a business, not a vocational training center.

On the other hand, I hired quite a few minimally skilled people for lower level clerical jobs, and a good number of them developed into employees worthy of higher level positions, and they were promoted, or got better jobs elsewhere
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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It's because employers assume that if you were laid off, you were probably "dead wood" at your old job; if you were that great of an employee, your old employer would have found some way to keep you.
I'm not saying I agree, I'm just telling you that's how they see it. If you were laid off because your old employer went out of business altogether, I would definitely point that out though it may not help.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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Its becvause once employed the employee makes for possible liabilty even when firing if the perosn does not worth out.
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Old 06-25-2012, 05:10 PM
 
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No, the reason why a person should get hired is because I have a particular job spot I want to fill and I need to hire someone capable of doing the work. I was running a business, not a vocational training center.

On the other hand, I hired quite a few minimally skilled people for lower level clerical jobs, and a good number of them developed into employees worthy of higher level positions, and they were promoted, or got better jobs elsewhere
Well nobody is born with experience, literally nobody is, it's like we live in a life, society, where you are expected to be born with experience, and it's hypocritical, stupid, people have to move on from the past, but employers will not

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Old 06-25-2012, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Lakeview, Chicago
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Well, I didn't read 9 pages of posts but I will say this: Of course it matters what you did in the past. It helps predict what kind of employee you'll be in the future. Did you change jobs every year or less just because? Why would I think that you'll change that pattern just because I hire you?

Are there gaps in your job history. Fine, just tell me why. Were there layoffs? Did you move (although I can usually figure that out)? Did you have personal issues? Were you in prison? Just tell me...don't make me guess. Because I can't afford to hire a flaky person.

The goal is to hire the best person for the job in terms of having good experience for the level of that position and demonstrated professionalism and dependability. The goal is to hire someone that my staff wants to spend most of their waking hours with.

I see resumes every day that are just horrible. Do the little things matter? Yes, they do. Why? Because your competition gets it and you, with your resume in all caps and with no dates, for example, clearly don't.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Petticoat Junction
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“Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much."

Luke 16:10
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Well, I didn't read 9 pages of posts but I will say this: Of course it matters what you did in the past. It helps predict what kind of employee you'll be in the future. Did you change jobs every year or less just because? Why would I think that you'll change that pattern just because I hire you?

Are there gaps in your job history. Fine, just tell me why. Were there layoffs? Did you move (although I can usually figure that out)? Did you have personal issues? Were you in prison? Just tell me...don't make me guess. Because I can't afford to hire a flaky person.

The goal is to hire the best person for the job in terms of having good experience for the level of that position and demonstrated professionalism and dependability. The goal is to hire someone that my staff wants to spend most of their waking hours with.

I see resumes every day that are just horrible. Do the little things matter? Yes, they do. Why? Because your competition gets it and you, with your resume in all caps and with no dates, for example, clearly don't.
Truth.
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:53 PM
 
Location: On the corner of Grey Street
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I didn't read the whole thread, but I don't agree with you. The past is usually a really good predictor of the future. Sometimes people change and that's great, but it's all about personal accountability. If you were a bum in the past, then you just need to suck it up and accept that it's going to take time and hard work to prove yourself in the present and future. Most employers want someone with a proven work ethic and experience and who could blame them? Start at the bottom and work your way up. You cannot undo the past. It will always matter, but if you really want to change the future you can. Just have to have the patience to prove yourself over the long run.
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