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Even though I would actually argue that $20 an hour in Newark is no better then $14 an hour in much of the south, I never said he couldnt be content with what hes making, that was never my argument, it was what STTResident turned it in to.
No, my little cherub, it was your sneering put-down which was my issue. I'm sure the poster making $20 an hour as a temp (and who is apparently content with that for now) feels truly thrilled to have been so blessed with your doomsaying statistical analysis. Nothing like spreading the joy around.
Trackwatch is making fun of me being unemployed on a public forum and doesn't realize that he/she is also making fun of other unemployed people who post on this forum. I just don't understand it-lol
NO, You are still unemployed by CHOICE, you could have accepted that $11/hr job-what was it, Feb?, and maybe after the contract term, hired in, making much more ... OR after seeing what a great worker you are, the agency would have placed you at another job making more. What is unemployment for you again? $8/hr ?
In another thread, you said you are going to stop looking until your unemployment runs out-which is it?.
Also, you and your business hours voice mail stuff, that in itself could be costing you a job.
For those not paying attention, I was "unemployed" three times, and used an agency to find work two out of those three times.
*shrug* $20 an hour is better than $0 an hour, no matter where you are.
Thats the attitude that is destroying the working man. "Oh well, table scraps are better than starving". Will you still be saying that when you are reduced to working for pennies? When a whole day of work cant buy you a meal?
Why should we tolerate that? Especially when someone else has 23 tables filled to the ceiling with food?
Thats the attitude that is destroying the working man. "Oh well, table scraps are better than starving". Will you still be saying that when you are reduced to working for pennies? When a whole day of work cant buy you a meal?
Why should we tolerate that? Especially when someone else has 23 tables filled to the ceiling with food?
I don't understand. Maybe I've never worked for a whole lot of money before, the most being $15 an hour... $20 an hour is more than I've ever made. So for me, it is good.
Now if I had been making double that before being unemployed, of course I wouldn't settle for that. I would want a pay rate that is close to or matched my previous wages. Ideally I'd like more, but realistically that is difficult in my field of work.
I don't understand. Maybe I've never worked for a whole lot of money before, the most being $15 an hour... $20 an hour is more than I've ever made. So for me, it is good.
Its not the pay rate, because $20 an hour is more then a lot of people have ever made, its the thought that "Well X might be low for what Im doing, and some agency basically has me bent over, but hey, its more then what I was making or hey, its better then nothing". If your job has a $40 value, you should be paid $40, not be paid $20 just because you'll accept it.
I do realize that a single person really cant do anything else, but the fact that most of us are in that boat is deplorable.
If your job has a $40 value, you should be paid $40, not be paid $20 just because you'll accept it.
I do realize that a single person really cant do anything else, but the fact that most of us are in that boat is deplorable.
I understand now, but how do you determine the value of a job? Do you take the national (or state or even county) median for the same or simliar jobs? Do you take into consideration experience and education? There is a lot to take into consideration.
And isn't it the employers discretion what they wish to pay their employees? No, it isn't right that they low ball, but what can you do if you are unemployed and are facing the end of your benefits? Desperation to maintain a roof over your head and food on the table will make you bite the bullet and accept whatever you can get.
Even people as a whole, I don't think we can do anything about the situation. Sure we can protest and refuse to accept the wages that are presented. But lets face it, life and bills still happen. It is deplorable that we are having to lessen our worth just to survive. It's terrible that there are people who dictate the wages and don't care about the people who have to scrape by.
Its not the pay rate, because $20 an hour is more then a lot of people have ever made, its the thought that "Well X might be low for what Im doing, and some agency basically has me bent over, but hey, its more then what I was making or hey, its better then nothing". If your job has a $40 value, you should be paid $40, not be paid $20 just because you'll accept it.
I do realize that a single person really cant do anything else, but the fact that most of us are in that boat is deplorable.
It's not really about your hourly wage... it's what you owe. My $24/hr ($36 OT) is the most I've ever made in my life. So far in 2012 I've saved over $6000... due to the fact I have no debt other than a $220 car payment on a $4000 balance.
I don't pay it off because the monthly payment looks better on my credit. Speaking of that... my credit to debt ratio is close to 90% to the good. My credit cards are at a $0 balance because I pay cash for everything.
A $24/hr job might not be good for someone with 3 kids ... a $250k mortgage... a boat and 2 cars but for this single guy it's plenty good.
Since you don't live or work there you're hardly in a position to comment. What works for the poster may not work for you but hardly reason to look down your nose.
Having lived in NYC during college, Ct 37 years, and Tn 14 years, I can confirm he is correct. $20 NYC is worth less than $13 in the South. NYC costs are astonomical. My cousin was trying for Admin jobs in NYC; lives in Ct. A one month train pass plus subway daily was going to cost her close to $500 per month. That is $3 plus per hour net pay, or $4.50/hr gross pay (NYC socks non residents with higher income tax).
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