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One more thing...money should be discussed once all experience and skills are put on the table.
A, B, C, D, E, etc is the way to live. Not, A, T, F, B, etc. Things have to go in order.
Many just e-mailed me asking how much they were going to get paid.
It's funny when employers expect applications, resumes, cover letters, extensive and oftentimes invasive interviews, background checks, social security numbers, credit checks, and 50+ hour weeks but when a prospective employee asks about compensation they get outraged and offended.
If, as an employer, you are not proud to talk about your compensation and benefits structure, you are not going to be a great company to work for. The best companies put as much effort into selling themselves as the interviewers do.
I was also looking for somebody to think "outside the box". Hiring somebody to come to work at 9 and leave at 5, wasn't what I was looking for. I needed an interior designer who had a client list and was able to generate more clients on her own. Which would compliment my aspect of the deal. In other words, I own a home improvement company. By her finding people looking to re-design, would in turn provide me with work. Painting, detail cleaning, etc. The second I told MOST people this, they got turned off and pretty much left the interview. The people that were interested were hired. Have you, this was two years ago. I still haven't gotten any leads. By them finding clients, they would get a percentage of the job or vice versa. People didn't want to go the extra step.
So, you were running a pyramid scheme, and calling it a job (much the same as a financial advisor), and wondered why you couldnt get a quality candidate?
One of my favorites was a woman who came in to fill out an application for a lunchtime cook in my place where the kitchen was open to the bar area via a serving station. As she sat at the bar completing the application I went back into the kitchen to give her some space and time and kept hearing these dreadful honking noises. Great big guttural snorting honks every minute. I've been around some pretty big pigs in my time but not one of those four footers could put a candle to this woman's racket. What a lovely accompaniment to one's lunch! And no I didn't hire her ...
A few years ago I was looking for an interior designer for my business. I should've saved some of the resumes. One person had a different job every month of the year. One lady brought her crying kid. Two were late. Many just e-mailed me asking how much they were going to get paid. Some of you wonder why you haven't been hired...
Maybe my little tale will shed some light on the situation.
One more thing...money should be discussed once all experience and skills are put on the table.
A, B, C, D, E, etc is the way to live. Not, A, T, F, B, etc. Things have to go in order.
I agree A comes before B and C comes after B. But isn't that what the resume is for? The resume (if its decent) should give you a general idea of how much your going to be willing to pay for this person. Obviously, you will always offer a lower price than what your max is. BUT, I think that an experienced person who may be interested in an interview will have a general idea of how much your job is worth prior to laying out what THEY have to offer. If you are offering them something that is half of what they feel they need to make, they can just walk away. If you feel uncomfortable giving out a number prior to knowing their work experience and skills (even though the resume should be enough), then offer a range at least. Don't deny an application because you want the interview first. Your only hurting yourself.
Judging by your post about what the job is, I can only assume you are skating around the pay range because it is too low of a "base". It appears as though its based on performance and/or commission based. Which in my mind most always screams SCAM. If you were offering a fair job at a fair price, you would have no problem hiring somebody. Its either that or you really suck at recruiting. I would analyze what YOU may be doing wrong, offer more money, or stop judging applicants who are interested in pay prior to accepting an interview. Be honest with them, and yourself.
I do nothing of the sort. As someone mentioned in another thread, I come in to sell; hoping that the company wants to buy.
I am very professional, show up 10 minutes early, never ask about the salary and have held jobs for years.
Stop stereotyping and accept reality that this economy blows chunks.
The average duration of unemployment is 6 months now. How long have you been out of work? If shorter, you're out of luck, if significantly longer, you're doing something wrong.
The average duration of unemployment is 6 months now. How long have you been out of work? If shorter, you're out of luck, if significantly longer, you're doing something wrong.
I was also looking for somebody to think "outside the box". Hiring somebody to come to work at 9 and leave at 5, wasn't what I was looking for. I needed an interior designer who had a client list and was able to generate more clients on her own. Which would compliment my aspect of the deal. In other words, I own a home improvement company. By her finding people looking to re-design, would in turn provide me with work. Painting, detail cleaning, etc. The second I told MOST people this, they got turned off and pretty much left the interview. The people that were interested were hired. Have you, this was two years ago. I still haven't gotten any leads. By them finding clients, they would get a percentage of the job or vice versa. People didn't want to go the extra step.
Sounds to me like you were looking for someone to help prop up your own failing/declining business.
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