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Better not try that on Maoris, Tongans or Samoans (among others) all of whom tattoo as manhood rites and whose tattoos often delineate tribal relations, nobility or Royalty as well as whether or not folk are Chiefs or Tohungas (Maori Priests.)
I've been to NZ and didn't see an abundance of Maoris with tats on their faces. I'm pretty sure the ones I saw in the shows put on for tourists were wearing makeup. Not that it couldn't happen, but it would be exceedingly rare to see a royal face-tattooed South Pacific Islander applying for a white collar corporate job in the US.
I've been to NZ and didn't see an abundance of Maoris with tats on their faces. I'm pretty sure the ones I saw in the shows put on for tourists were wearing makeup. Not that it couldn't happen, but it would be exceedingly rare to see a royal face-tattooed South Pacific Islander applying for a white collar corporate job in the US.
You are missing the important point here. One size does not fit all. You cannot lump all people who have tattoos into the 'they need not apply here because they are unprofessional group.' As with so much else in life, people cannot be grouped in this manner.
Have you seen the build of the average Tongan / Samoan / Maori?
The build of the average Maori didn't stop British regulars, many of them small guttersnipes of the slums who joined the army in search of a steady meal, from putting paid to them. Little guys are usually tougher than big ones; big guys often get over on bluster, little guys strike without warning.
The build of the average Maori didn't stop British regulars, many of them small guttersnipes of the slums who joined the army in search of a steady meal, from putting paid to them. Little guys are usually tougher than big ones; big guys often get over on bluster, little guys strike without warning.
You need to research what happened. As an example, the battle with the Maori began the whole idea of trench warfare.
You are missing the important point here. One size does not fit all. You cannot lump all people who have tattoos into the 'they need not apply here because they are unprofessional group.' As with so much else in life, people cannot be grouped in this manner.
The people who are hiring can make those decisions any way they like. The truth is that there are more qualified people than there are jobs so employers are free to make hiring decisions based on whatever criteria they choose, as long as they do not violate the law. If the employment situation turns around you may see hiring managers change their requirements. However, as long as there are more qualified people than spots you get a visible tattoo at your own risk.
Apologies, but this is one of the more ridiculous threads I've seen. Comparisons to hair color or even skin color? Really folks? I hate euphemisms, so can we just call it what it is? It's called self-mutilation, although, technically, this is mutilation done by someone else. If someone applied for a job with cuts all over their arms, it would be cause for concern and would be universally regarded as unappealing. For some reason, when the mutilation is done by someone else, made to luck like Betty Boop, barbed wire or a dragon, and injected with ink, it's not mutilation. Aces.
Yes, how "judgmental" of an employer to not want an employee walking around with mutilation marks all over their bodies! Outrageous! This reminds me of the whining I heard from other education students when they were informed that the lewd pictures they decided to post on their Facebook pages would probably jeopardize their chances of being hired as teachers because one of the first things administrators do is check out applicants' Facebook pages. "How dare they make judgments about me based upon what I choose to share with the world!"
BTW, kudos to the person a few pages back who got to the essence of all this: "Look at me! Lookat me!!!" It connects nicely to the narcissism of the Facebook obsessives who plaster their private lives on the internet.
Anyone with a tattoo on their face, neck, or hand is not eligible for employment.
I wouldn't paint with such a broad bush. Mike Tyson's face tattoo enhances his personality. When I first saw it I didn't care for it, but now it's kind of iconic.
I wouldn't paint with such a broad bush. Mike Tyson's face tattoo enhances his personality. When I first saw it I didn't care for it, but now it's kind of iconic.
That is a pretty ignorant remark. I know pleanty of people in upper management / executive positions who have advanced degrees, make nice 6-figure salaries and have tattoos.
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The firm in the OP's example is making it clear up front that it is not acceptable behavior for them. I think that's fair.
Agreed. And even if one's company / employers have no issue with tattoos, there is a possibility that some of their clients might. It is stated up front - if someone has an issue with it, they can choose to apply for a job elsewhere.
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I'm the OP about last month's podt regarding my turnoff at seeing tatts on employees at Panera and Whole Foods.
In that post, I mentioned that Jimmy John's sandwich delivery even states that tatts must be covered. I'm sure many posters here feel that's silly, but I'd still prefer to not have to see my delivery driver or anyone at the gym with tatts. Simple as that. I'm 52, if that matters.
I prefer not to have to look at old people - they are all wrinkly and gross looking. And if they happen to be female add to that those horrible sagging breasts.
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I guess I still don't get why so many people are using the word "unprofessional." I work with a very educated (many with advanced degrees), international crowd and many of my colleagues have visible tattoos.
I work with a similar type of group - and have a few tats myself. But there are certain expectations in the white-collar business world, especially when dealing with clients. We can sit around the table in the boardroom and no one cares if someone's tattoos are showing (heck, we're a jeans kind of place most days). But if a client comes in for a meeting or we go out and interact with people outside of the company, we're all in suits and dressed and looking how we are expected to look in a professional setting.
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