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Old 08-13-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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I typically refrain from embracing these types of lists, but I found this one to be somewhat interesting.

Ten Job Search Rules to Break | LinkedIn
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:49 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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I typically refrain from embracing these types of lists, but I found this one to be somewhat interesting.

Ten Job Search Rules to Break | LinkedIn
A good article highlighting good points and the readers' varied comments are also on point. Mod cut: Off topic.

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Old 08-13-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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Any tips on how to contact employers even if there are no open positions advertised? Do I contact HR/hiring manager and what should I say? I am almost certain my messages will go ignored if I'm not addressing a specific open position.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:25 AM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Any tips on how to contact employers even if there are no open positions advertised? Do I contact HR/hiring manager and what should I say? I am almost certain my messages will go ignored if I'm not addressing a specific open position.

You don't contact a HR manager unless you know the same people. Once they get your email or call the question will be ......."who referred you to me or how did you get my contact info?


So try not and send emails or call hiring managers if you don't know anyone who knows them
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Any tips on how to contact employers even if there are no open positions advertised? Do I contact HR/hiring manager and what should I say? I am almost certain my messages will go ignored if I'm not addressing a specific open position.
Exactly what West Philly said. Unless you have an in, I wouldn't. You do it if you have a mutual friend, or something like that.

I think some of the rules are interesting and should work, other is not as easy to do. If you are unemployed, it is not as easy as just being able to network. It's not that easy to do especially if you not getting unemploymet.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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Exactly what West Philly said. Unless you have an in, I wouldn't. You do it if you have a mutual friend, or something like that.
I disagree. There is absolutely nothing to be lost and a chance to gain by calling a company and asking if it would be possible to talk to the hiring manager. If you're put through, keep it short and simple. Introduce yourself, briefly say what you do and ask if - although you haven't seen them advertising any positions - seeing your resumé would be of interest to them. You can likewise give that information to a secretary to be passed on. The worst that can happen is that you give up a couple of minutes of your time and the person you speaks to says no.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:14 AM
 
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um, what is up with all the trademarked thingies in that list? it reads like a big jargony ad for something i'm not clicking on.

like, what is a "pain letter (tm)"? i bet it's a cover letter with a trademark on it. i'm certainly not going to read some other thing by the author (that seems to be selling some "get a job" system) in order to learn what they think i should do.

if this person has some revolutionary system for applying to jobs, they should either advertise and sell it openly or share what it is in the first place, not lay a breadcrumb trail to a paid system in an ad disguised as an article.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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I agree. It sounds like a sales pitch from a "life coach."
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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I disagree with #2. Most companies, if you're an internal referral, that generally gets your resume to the top of the pile for consideration. At a large company or for a position with a dizzying number of applications for an open position, it can mean the difference in whether or not a pair of human eyes actually reviews your resume vs. being auto-screened.

I wasn't familiar with the term 'Pain Letter', so I googled it. Pain Letter. Seems too gimmicky to me, but I'm curious, has anyone ever tried that tactic?
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:41 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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We're not exactly talking about a Bible here (that's not the best analogy but you probably get my point). It's one person's opinion based on their own research. As with everything else, you sift through it and maybe learn something you didn't think of. Just another tool.
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