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Old 10-24-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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So I am currently employed, but the position I am in has little to no growth potential. I would have to move out of state 600 miles a way which, I refuse to do.

At my current position I make 38500 a year salary, 4 weeks vacation, only have to work on average 30 hours a week but get paid for 40, company cell phone, and laptop.

I was just offered a position at another company for only 38000 a year, 2 weeks vacation, and would be an hourly employee working the typical 40 hours a week. However they do offer 100% paid college tuition if I ever decide to go back and there is a lot of job growth potential.

I enjoy the job I have now but I can't see myself being stuck in this position for the rest of my career. I also don't think I'll take the new job offer as it stands (less pay, less vacation, more hours worked). My question is how much do you think I should counter offer on the salary? Would 45000 be fair?
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:51 AM
 
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Less money, less vacation, more hours, and hourly vs exempt. Are you sure your current employers doesn't offer tuition reimbursement?

You can try for the $45k but personally, I don't think that little raise would be worth it. I'd pass on this opportunity and keep looking.

Why won't you move to stay with your company? You can move, stay a few years and then come back.
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:18 AM
 
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I think you should ask for $50k to compensate for the risk of getting into a new job+ loss of benefits. And then they might counter with $45k, but don't start countering with a lower number
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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I agree that it's not worth leaving a comparatively cushy job for such a small raise.
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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If you were paid your current hourly rate at the new job, you would receive $51333/year.

Your lost two weeks of vacation is worth around $1500 year.

Do the priced and unpriced benefits make up for that?
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:45 AM
 
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I guess the only reason I am even considering this new position is because they offer to pay 100% college tuition which includes textbooks and fees. Also, I forgot to mention, they will allow me to take 3 hours off a week to study for school with flexible start time.

I currently have my A.S degree and plan on getting my B.S. (maybe even my masters) so the free tuition does sound appetizing.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Hampton Roads
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Most places offer free tuition to a certain amount per year. What is your current company's policy?
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:05 AM
 
Location: NJ
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If you are definitely going be going back to school you can't ignore that benefit. It trumps pretty much everything else in my opinion given how expensive school is.

That being said you need to make sure you fully understand how the tuition reimbursement works. How many classes can you take at a time? Do you have to get a certain grade for reimbursement? Do you have to front the money? Does your degree have to be compatible with your role? What happens if the benefit is discontinued?
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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I guess the only reason I am even considering this new position is because they offer to pay 100% college tuition which includes textbooks and fees. Also, I forgot to mention, they will allow me to take 3 hours off a week to study for school with flexible start time.

I currently have my A.S degree and plan on getting my B.S. (maybe even my masters) so the free tuition does sound appetizing.

The 100% tuition/books...Is there a yearly cap on how much can be spent total?
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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Well I got an email from the potential employer saying they need an answer today, so I called up the HR manager and told her I would need at least 45k to make this offer work. She said "I don't know if we can get you that much, let me talk to your hiring manager." So this is where I stand right now.

As for the tuition benefits she said, payments are made directly to the school to minimize out of pocket costs and there is no limit to the amount of schooling I do. Also, I can get a degree in any field whether or not it's related to my job.
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