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Originally Posted by Cerebrator
Also, get this people: there's no negotiating for 99% of the population. Here's who negotiates: people who earn seven figure salaries. That's who!
Most people are not so exceptionally talented or gifted, resourceful, connected, or smart that a company can't get someone similar. Middle class people seldom win in negotiation and if they do it is for what, an extra 2,000 bucks a year, an extra 50 bucks to a paycheck?
Some do, but many don't. And it's just becoming a waste of my time having to go through the process of getting an interview/being interviewed only to find the wages offered are too low.
I can understand why employers who are looking for fill highly-skilled positions wouldn't include a salary offer in a job posting. I'm talking about lower wage work. I'm a student and currently have a night delivery job. I'm always on the look out for something else though.
I just won't work for less than $11 an hour. And a lot of these employers want to pay peanuts for difficult back-breaking work. If they intend to offer only $9/hr in wages, why not just say that in their job posting and save everyone from wasting their time?
I had an interview today for a job, that while wouldn't qualify as skilled, still requires some knowledge and experience to do efficiently. The pay? $9.50/hr. No thanks, I told the gentlemen. He looked completely shocked. "You don't want to work?" he said to me. "Not for those wages" I said.
I think it is done to control the salary information for jobs which gives the employer power over salary discussions.
As a seasoned job seeker, it IS a waste of my time to engage in answering to job ads which aren't transparent enough to reveal at least a possible wage range in their ads.
To do interviews; which also leave the wages a mystery until you are already in the middle of them, is also a waste of both my time and gas money as well as the interviewer's time.
We both save each other valuable time if by choice, I make the decision to pass over answering the ad in the first place because it doesn't show the potential pay being offered.
Some of us sadly, don't require or desire additional interviewing practicing If job seeking, I NEED to see a rate in the ad so I can make an informed decision on whether the wage offered can support me and my family in the first place otherwise, it's just keeping me from connecting with a job offer that I know can support us.
I have always wondered that as well. I mean the recruiter must know that one of the questions the guy/gal you are interviewing will inevitably ask is "how much does the position pay?" Why not settle that question and state the pay in the ad?
Most recruiters would rather you reveal your current salary and possibly your salary expectations first. If it's in the ad, then they put it out there first. That is very seldom their preference.
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