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Originally Posted by 313Weather
So "They found someone else that is a better fit for the position" is not the real reason then?
It's the legally correct reason to give, but not the real reason. The problem is the legally correct reason still doesn't tell a candidate why they weren't the right fit.
Yes, it is. They're not contradictory in any way, shape or form.
The real reason is they found someone that is a better fit.
Why they are a better fit is a different question. Completely different question.
If you want the answer to the second question, unless you have a good relationship with them (as I explained), you won't get it, and quite frankly, you are in no way, shape or form, entitled to it. And if you take that part of the equation personally, good thing they dodged a bullet.
Yes, it is. They're not contradictory in any way, shape or form.
The real reason is they found someone that is a better fit.
Why they are a better fit is a different question. Completely different question.
If you want the answer to the second question, unless you have a good relationship with them (as I explained), you won't get it, and quite frankly, you are in no way, shape or form, entitled to it.
^^^I hope you aren't this passive-aggressive when working with job candidates.
But the poster was being honest and very clear about it without cloaking anything.
They're not being honest and clear about anything. They're being evasive and intentionally difficult with sharp tongue responses that didn't address the point.
Quite frankly, it's foolish to think when someone's rejected, they would want to know or hear anything else other than the reason why they were not a good fit.
If a girl rejects your invitation for a date, wouldn't you want to know what they thought was wrong with you?
They're not being honest and clear about anything. They're being evasive and intentionally difficult with sharp tongue responses that didn't address the point.
You mean like this?
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Have you seen a shrink recently, or did someone lend you some of their good "pick-me-ups?"
Please do not cry foul about sharp tongues when you are guilty of posts like the one above.
For every person who wants to know the specifics, there is another who doesn't want to hear it. The person sending the email offered him or herself as a resource. It's up to the op to take that offer and ask for the specifics.
I will again repeat that no matter what anyone in a company does, there are always a hundred people saying it's the wrong thing to do or wasn't good enough.
True. And I suspect that 99.99999% of interviewees would be satisfied with "you're not the right fit" and move on with their lives.
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Originally Posted by MPowering1
For every person who wants to know the specifics, there is another who doesn't want to hear it. The person sending the email offered him or herself as a resource. It's up to the op to take that offer and ask for the specifics.
I will again repeat that no matter what anyone in a company does, there are always a hundred people saying it's the wrong thing to do or wasn't good enough.
Why do so many people want an exact reason, why they are not hired, and expect the company to provide it? It is rediculous they even expect it. Lets look at it from the employers point of view.
1: With all the applications they receive, they physically do not have the time to answer each one and give a reason. Most applications will never even see the light of day, as a computer will eliminate them because they do not meet the companies needs. They are only interested in the ones that exactly match or exceed their minimum requirements.
2: Their legal department, will not let them give you reasons you are not hired. Some people get mad when they are told why they are not good enough and sue the company to get even. The company is not going to stick it's neck out and thus avoid law suites.
3: The real reason the other person is hired, is they impressed the HM more than you did. They may have had the better experience of education. They have done a better job preparing their application or resume than you did, even though you were both equal in education and experience. They may have done better in personal interviews than you did. They may have quickly answered all questions asked, and hou were hestitant or had a hard time coming up with an answer. If you did not answer some question as you did not feel it was pertinant, and the perso getting the job did answer it, that alone may be the reason the other person was hired. If you had to take a test, they may have answered the questions more in line with what the compay wanted to see, than you did.
The truth is, they HM may not know why you were not hired. What they do know, is the person that got the job, was as well or better qualified than you were, and impressed the HM more favorably than you did. When I say you, that includes all the people that were not hired.
To expect them to tell you exactly why you were not hired and someone else was, is completely unresonable on your part. Truthfully they may not be able to even give you an answer.
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