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Old 08-11-2014, 01:39 PM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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Simply put, it takes time and money to train someone. If the wrong candidate is hired and doesn't work out, they have to start all over again with someone new.
There is always someone who "will not work out". There is no such thing as a perfect candidate who will always stick around and add value to the company. In fact, turnover in most situations is healthy.

All of the requirements, checked boxes, prolonged time frames and ad nauseam interview process do is make us feel better as human beings that we have done everything possible to make a right decision. It doesn't actually lead to one.

That is what happens when irrational mammals think they are making a rational decision.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: North America
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There is always someone who "will not work out". There is no such thing as a perfect candidate who will always stick around and add value to the company. In fact, turnover in most situations is healthy.

All of the requirements, checked boxes, prolonged time frames and ad nauseam interview process do is make us feel better as human beings that we have done everything possible to make a right decision. It doesn't actually lead to one.

That is what happens when irrational mammals think they are making a rational decision.

Yes, and when the big boss asks HR why Mr. Smith was hired when he clearly wasn't qualified, an answer like "That is what happens when irrational mammals think they are making a rational decision" will go over big.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:46 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I've had an employer call me for the position I applied to and just because I was missing one requirement she never called back again to schedule an interview.

Seriously?
Do you know how many others applied? Why would they want to interview someone missing "one requirement" if they have 10, 20, or 100 other applicants that have all of the requirements? Even someone meeting all of the requirements is not necessarily a good fit for the job, but employers have to do what they can to reduce the numbers. They are not going to take the time to interview 100 people for one opening.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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Yes, and when the big boss asks HR why Mr. Smith was hired when he clearly wasn't qualified, an answer like "That is what happens when irrational mammals think they are making a rational decision" will go over big.
I'd say that allowing HR to make hiring decision(s) was "big boss's" big mistake.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:49 PM
 
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Quite frankly, if an employer chooses to hold out for this perfect candidate or "close" to perfect candidate, the position must not be one that needs to be filled.
This is exactly the problem. Clearly these positions don't need to be filled. If they did, the employer would be hiring immediately. At one time in my career I spent the majority of my day interviewing and hiring people. I knew within 10 minutes whether I wanted the person or not and would either hire them, or not. Sometimes if the answer was 'not' they would call me and change my mind, but not often. I found this method of hiring to be far more successful than multiple interviews, tests, etc...
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Old 08-11-2014, 02:51 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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It's one thing to find the perfect candidate. It's another to be able to afford him, as they'll want top dollar which may be out of budget for the company.
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Old 08-11-2014, 05:41 PM
 
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I'd say that allowing HR to make hiring decision(s) was "big boss's" big mistake.

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Old 08-11-2014, 08:46 PM
 
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"I've had an employer call me for the position I applied to and just because I was missing one requirement she never called back again to schedule an interview. " yes, I had this happen to me too. And the one skill that she made such a big deal out of... later in the year I was able to learn the software, literally took me a half hour to learn what she wanted me to do.

Obviously she had no clue about the duties of what the position she was hiring for. And a couple months later, I saw HER position available in a help wanted ad at that corporation
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Old 08-11-2014, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I've had an employer call me for the position I applied to and just because I was missing one requirement she never called back again to schedule an interview.

Seriously?
I got a note from a internal recruiter about a job I am pretty qualified for a few weeks ago. Now I am interested and I saw the job reposed by someone else at the company. I called up the first recruiter and she is on vacation for the next 4 weeks and said to talk to the other person. I wrote the other recruiter a note about the job and it was like crickets!

I know that there isn't a huge candidate pool for the role, so I am shocked they haven't called me back!

On the other hand, I applied for a similar role at another company. They contacted me for a first interview about an hour after I filled out the online application. Crossing my fingers on this one. But I do find it silly, when companies screw up the follow up. The ones that want you will be aggressive to make sure you don't fall through the cracks.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:14 AM
 
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Obviously she had no clue about the duties of what the position she was hiring for. And a couple months later, I saw HER position available in a help wanted ad at that corporation

What goes around comes around......
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