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Old 11-29-2014, 01:28 AM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Even if found out years later? So if someone had only 3 months gap on their resume when it was really 6, 2-3 years later they find this out they will fire the employee "for cause"? Seriously? What company is this?
I believe all that would be confirmed before you became official at the new job which is the purpose of the background. Once you get your company id and password then you don't have to worry about that
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Old 11-29-2014, 01:35 AM
 
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I don't understand, I thought software developers didn't have to fudge dates because freelance and consulting stints between employers are so common.
They are. That's all the OP has to put on the resume.

People get far too much into defending their actions when an employer doesn't really care about them. You left the job and it was a layoff. t's going to sound negative no matter how it's explained, so it's better to focus on the skills you have to bring to this new job. Unless the company was being relocated to another state you didn't want to live, I wouldn't waste any more time talking about it and use the time to impress the hiring manager about yourself.
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Old 11-29-2014, 01:38 AM
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They are. That's all the OP has to put on the resume.

People get far too much into defending their actions when an employer doesn't really care about them. You left the job and it was a layoff. t's going to sound negative no matter how it's explained, so it's better to focus on the skills you have to bring to this new job. Unless the company was being relocated to another state you didn't want to live, I wouldn't waste any more time talking about it and use the time to impress the hiring manager about yourself.
A few years ago I put Job Ended as for Reason leaving the last employer and they never made a big deal about it
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Old 11-29-2014, 01:45 AM
 
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well I know for me that when I was laid off I didn't start job searching right away because I had to get over the initial shock of losing my job which took a month. It had to sink in first that I was no longer working so I couldn't just come home and start applying for jobs right away

Now I think if I was laid off now I would not have a choice because you only get 6 months which means you can't afford to waste a month
That's understandable for some situations. Often people were working without taking vacations only to he fired or downsized, so it's their time anyway. I personally don't think it's anyone's business how long the gaps on the resume were. After all, what if after you lost that job you decided to spend the next 3 months working on your novel and then start seriously looking for a job. What if you had an elderly relative you wanted to move in with and take care of for several months. Why should someone else sit in judgement of how you decided to spend your time between jobs. I mean, why is that anyone else's business. The thing is, people are going to have a 40+ year work history, what freaking difference does it make if you didn't work 2-3 times for a very months here and there.
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Old 11-29-2014, 01:51 AM
 
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A few years ago I put Job Ended as for Reason leaving the last employer and they never made a big deal about it

Yes, HR and the hiring manager's office is not a place to confess your perceived sins.
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Old 11-29-2014, 01:55 AM
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That's understandable for some situations. Often people were working without taking vacations only to he fired or downsized, so it's their time anyway. I personally don't think it's anyone's business how long the gaps on the resume were. After all, what if after you lost that job you decided to spend the next 3 months working on your novel and then start seriously looking for a job. What if you had an elderly relative you wanted to move in with and take care of for several months. Why should someone else sit in judgement of how you decided to spend your time between jobs. I mean, why is that anyone else's business. The thing is, people are going to have a 40+ year work history, what freaking difference does it make if you didn't work 2-3 times for a very months here and there.
I agree, especially if you are quality for the job that is being advertised
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Old 11-29-2014, 04:04 AM
 
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That's understandable for some situations. Often people were working without taking vacations only to he fired or downsized, so it's their time anyway. I personally don't think it's anyone's business how long the gaps on the resume were. After all, what if after you lost that job you decided to spend the next 3 months working on your novel and then start seriously looking for a job. What if you had an elderly relative you wanted to move in with and take care of for several months. Why should someone else sit in judgement of how you decided to spend your time between jobs. I mean, why is that anyone else's business. The thing is, people are going to have a 40+ year work history, what freaking difference does it make if you didn't work 2-3 times for a very months here and there.

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Old 11-29-2014, 05:44 AM
 
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Lying is an excellent way to start off any relationship.
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Old 11-29-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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Lying is an excellent way to start off any relationship.
If you claim you can do a job and can't that's a lie regardless if you have a spotless work record or not. It's just a job, and a lot of information is private or should be, and if someone who has to put food on the table and has to say something that isn't truthful to protect their privacy they have no other choice. Employers demand and have access to information about you that you wouldn't tell close friends or some members of your own family, so why does the level of becoming an employer entitle them to treat you like a little child with no privacy. Then to sit in judgement to define you because of things that are out of your control and simply none of their business.

Tell them whatever makes them happy, if you can't do the job, it will become obvious immediately to everyone.

And this isn't a relationship you are forming, it's a business not a person.
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Old 11-29-2014, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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One of the few things a past employer can say about a former employee is that you were employed with them and give the dates...and since you have such a short job history and they WERE your last employer it seems pretty likely that they would check. THen you'd be in a whole world of hurt - don't lie! If you get an interview you can explain then.
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