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Try to make sure they have interviewed you in person before you talk salary if possible.
Never bring it up yourself.
You want as many people interested in hiring you as possible before salary gets brought up.
Then if they bring it up, give them a range. Have what you will accept at the bottom of the range or close to it. So if you want $38K, say $38K to $45K. That way, they can have a better way to offer you more but won't pick another candidate because you are too expensive.
Try not to tell them what you are making now. I give in to this sometimes but most decent employers don't come right out asking this. To me, it's a rude question.
The sucky part is in the employment application it requires me to list down how much I started and ended at.... Which seems to becoming more common. So they know how much I make. It also made me put a number in how much I expect for pay and I put $18 lol.
The challenge with just focusing on salary is you are ignoring the total compensation package. In my current case, salary makes up only about 50% of my compensation with the rest being bonus, stock, 401K match, pension, health/life insurance benefits, vacation entitlement, etc. If I just focused on salary, and even received more than I am making now, I could end up losing lots of money with a company change.
The sucky part is in the employment application it requires me to list down how much I started and ended at.... Which seems to becoming more common. So they know how much I make. It also made me put a number in how much I expect for pay and I put $18 lol.
It's just a blank on the form. The only time we give it any notice is when an employee puts down a number that is way off base with what is being offered. We got an app from a guy who stated he wanted $25 an hour for an $18 an hour job. That's not gonna happen. We reviewed the stack of applications and he made it into the "interview" pile. Before we called him to let him know that $25 an hour wasn't happening, and to see if he was interested in an interview at the posted rate, he called and withdrew his application. And, contrary to the accepted belief that everyone is out to *********, my brother interviewed for a job as an engineer and listed X as his minimum salary. They offered him 25% more than he asked for.
The challenge with just focusing on salary is you are ignoring the total compensation package. In my current case, salary makes up only about 50% of my compensation with the rest being bonus, stock, 401K match, pension, health/life insurance benefits, vacation entitlement, etc. If I just focused on salary, and even received more than I am making now, I could end up losing lots of money with a company change.
At my last 3 jobs, I got the bonus outlined in the offer letter and a benefits package to read.
It's a good thing I can read the documents and decide to sign the paper work or not. They don't have me until I sign.
If they ask what you make, tell them what you want to make. Solves the problem right there.
I'm not sure if they can legally then confirm that with your previous employer, and the likelihood they would waste their time on that detail is slim.
It doesn't solve the problem, and it creates another one. It is legal and easy to confirm previous salary, and now you are lying to the people you want to give you a job.
It doesn't solve the problem, and it creates another one. It is legal and easy to confirm previous salary, and now you are lying to the people you want to give you a job.
Honestly I would take the job if they didn't budge 37,000 cuz it's more than I make now with great benefits. I used some calculator and it was a total of 43-45k. Great insurance, pto, perks, etc.
Not sure how it is in other states but most places I know do not disclose personal info or pay but just dates of employment, title, and that's about it.
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