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Old 03-25-2016, 04:14 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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I'm surprised a veteran of this forum would state such a myth.

To repeat for the umpeenth time, some companies may not reveal why someone was terminated, but not all companies. There are in fact no laws preventing an employer from detailing information about a former coworker as long as it's true. And employers these days are hardly intimidated by lawsuit threats, as futile age discrimination claims can attest to.

Let's not forget the classic loaded question, "is this former employee eligible for rehire."

And of course the grapevine where anything can be found about an applicant offline.
No but smart companies just give titles and dates of employment though some may not. Having someone or hiring a service to call as a checker and find out what they will say is prudent. Otherwise pretty much any spin you put on being fired makes no difference. You are a leper as far as other employers are concerned.

Most companies will give out titles and dates of employment or direct you to the Worknumber for verification.
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Old 03-25-2016, 04:16 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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How would you feel about this response during an interview? "I disagreed with company policy I felt it was unethical." This is very true in my case btw. They believed in managing people by bullying and wanted me to do the same, and I'm not that type of manager.
They will declare you an insubordinate problem employee and trash your app.
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Old 03-25-2016, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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@MSchemist80 not sure if you follow Liz Ryan on LinkedIn but she wrote an excellent article about this. Here is what she says to A VP of sales who was going through the same thing I did: “I could see that it was time for me and the management team to part ways.” That’s all you need to say about that. Don’t trash your former bosses, however sleazily they ran their business.
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Old 03-25-2016, 06:25 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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They will still be suspicious. No one quits a job without another lined up unless they were laid off or were moving out of the area.
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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They will still be suspicious. No one quits a job without another lined up unless they were laid off or were moving out of the area.
Yup. I got grilled by HR dolts after I quit my retail job once I graduated college. Despite me being an excellent, reliable employee of 5 years combined with glowing management references, they automatically assumed red flags and tried as hard as possible to see if I would slip and somehow mention that I had gotten fired. I learned to simply tell them that I left because I was excited to start the next chapter of my professional career and wanted to be flexible as possible when it came to things like interviewing, start dates, etc. with potential positions (no crazy shifts/hours which could prevent me from attending an important interview). Even when I fill out online apps these days, I simply put down my reason for leaving as "Graduated college."

Honestly, I just got tired of the job and wanted a break for a bit to recharge after working 30 hours a week while being a full-time student for 4 years. Luckily, I found a job since then and now employers commend me on how long I was there for and are impressed that I worked while I was in school. I guess I've managed to dodge that stigma as for now!
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