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Old 08-24-2016, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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Do I factor this into a job offer and negotiating position for starting compensation?
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Old 08-24-2016, 07:16 PM
 
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no, this should not be a factor. The employer in the no income tax state doesn't care if they hire someone from a 5% state or a 9% state.. The salary you warrant will be dependent on your skills and experience not the local tax rates. Now, the company may consider various factors when they make the offer to you; including what they feel is a fair wage for their area and how much you were making previously.
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Old 08-24-2016, 07:45 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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I agree, in fact, at some point in the future that state could start charging an income tax, they are talking about it again here.
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Old 08-24-2016, 09:05 PM
 
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And states that don't charge income taxes make up for it other ways, such as higher sales tax, higher property tax, more expensive to get a drivers license and license a vehicle, etc.
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:18 AM
 
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no, this should not be a factor. The employer in the no income tax state doesn't care if they hire someone from a 5% state or a 9% state.. The salary you warrant will be dependent on your skills and experience not the local tax rates. Now, the company may consider various factors when they make the offer to you; including what they feel is a fair wage for their area and how much you were making previously.
As people start to wise up employers in high income tax states or high COL states (ie artificailly inflated housing costs) are going to have a recruiting people because what sounds like a good deal at first glance can actually be a loss once you put the spead sheet together.


If an employer can find someone local that is what they should do because it would be crazy for someone to move across the country without a contract and a bump up in actual net income after housing expenses.


Companys are exploiting desperate people right now and getting labor at a steep discount but it wont happen forever.
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:24 AM
 
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And states that don't charge income taxes make up for it other ways, such as higher sales tax, higher property tax, more expensive to get a drivers license and license a vehicle, etc.
Property taxes can sometimes be as draconian as income taxes in terms of total dollars. Since this person is talking about leaving state for a job I am guessing this is six figure or near six figure in which case income taxes have to be taken very serious becuase it can be a huge hit in terms of total dollars.


Even property taxes can be controled if you dont have the need to live in a mcmansion. Income taxes are the most nefarious forms of taxation that exist becuase they tax hard, smart work and discourage working harder. I know people who calculate out exactly how much they have to work to not go over a certian bracket, they negotiate this into their contracts their hourly rate is the same but they just work less hours because after a certian point it just gets chewed up in taxes unless you go up significantly in income which they may not be willing to pay.


The lack of people negotiating contracts is an issue as well, again this is the result of too many desperate people to work on a promise in an at-will state after just having moved thousands of miles.
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Old 08-25-2016, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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Appreciate your insight and responses all. In Cali 13% of 100k is a lot of money. Thus far I have not seen a dramatic increase in property taxes in Washington, though as the poster above points out that is controllable. Sales tax is slightly higher and the cost of a nice home is HALF what it is here in the "sunshine" state. Also has pointed out by pittsflyer is that people don't negotiate. Few people submit a counteroffer when employers fully expect it. In any case the COL in significantly less northwards. Everything is less cost. Everything.

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Old 08-25-2016, 07:01 AM
 
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I disagree with those saying it shouldn't be a factor. You should inflate your salary requirement by 13% to make up this difference. Whether or not you tell the company this detail is up to you.

I started a new job a year ago. It is in a city that collects a city income tax of 1.25% on non-residents. I absolutely took that into account when considering the job offer, and 1.25% is a lot less than 13%.
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Sure, go ahead but don't expect to always get what you ask for.
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Old 08-25-2016, 12:10 PM
 
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Appreciate your insight and responses all. In Cali 13% of 100k is a lot of money. Thus far I have not seen a dramatic increase in property taxes in Washington, though as the poster above points out that is controllable. Sales tax is slightly higher and the cost of a nice home is HALF what it is here in the "sunshine" state. Also has pointed out by pittsflyer is that people don't negotiate. Few people submit a counteroffer when employers fully expect it. In any case the COL in significantly less northwards. Everything is less cost. Everything.
The only exception would be if you were unemployed and needed a job. I suppose someone could take a 100k job in silicon valley and live out of their car/motor home and just bank the money and leave.
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