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Old 09-04-2016, 11:52 PM
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I found this to be an interesting article. It lines up with the complaints a lot of folks in this forum have about job search personality tests.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...-working-lives

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Employers are turning to mathematically modelled ways of sifting through job applications. Even when wrong, their verdicts seem beyond dispute – and they tend to punish the poor.
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:25 AM
 
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I took the Kroger pre-hire personality test, whatever it is called. It is clearly designed to weed out people who are confrontational, always have to be right, and do not have a customer service attitude, which I think is a pretty reasonable expectation for a corporation that runs a retail operation in which customer interaction is crucial. I worked with high school kids, folks with graduate degrees, and everything in between, a number of whom would be considered poor, and some of them were fairly stupid, but they possessed the attitude that was wanted and were able to fulfill the roles they were given.
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Old 09-05-2016, 12:09 PM
 
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what personality tests do people on CD even refer to? all my jobs, the only personality test is to ask current worker if they knew me/of me, and if they want to work with me. And I get ask that for people applying as well. It's a small field, just a few hundred for 1-2 million people.

maybe i missed it in article, but i didn't see how they "punish the poor", but they referred to it without anything to back up the claim.
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Old 09-05-2016, 12:32 PM
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maybe i missed it in article, but i didn't see how they "punish the poor", but they referred to it without anything to back up the claim.
I searched the text for the word "poor." There were 2 sections that specifically reference an effect on the poor.

The first is the one about resumes being filtered by CV keywords and the poor not being able to afford professional resume services that tell them how to optimize their resume by including certain keywords.

The second is about resumes being filtered by distance from the job site. If an employer is located in an area with high-cost housing, filtering by distance discriminates against people who live a longer distance from that area, in housing that is more affordable to them.
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Old 09-05-2016, 12:43 PM
 
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I searched the text for the word "poor." There were 2 sections that specifically reference an effect on the poor.

The first is the one about resumes being filtered by CV keywords and the poor not being able to afford professional resume services that tell them how to optimize their resume by including certain keywords.

The second is about resumes being filtered by distance from the job site. If an employer is located in an area with high-cost housing, filtering by distance discriminates against people who live a longer distance from that area, in housing that is more affordable to them.
Living far from the jobsit, or for that matter being poor, is not a protected class, so discrimination on either of those is perfectly legal. The poor may not be able to affor professional resume help, but there are plenty of free services, including a lot of websites. If anything, the difficulty for the really poor is having to go to a library to apply, if they have no internet, because almost all good jobs require online applications.
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Old 09-05-2016, 03:32 PM
 
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but those two things have nothing to do with being "poor"... the author is trying to spin it

I'm not really sure about a professional service either, my resume gets me hired and it isn't from any resume service either
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Old 09-05-2016, 03:36 PM
 
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I searched the text for the word "poor." There were 2 sections that specifically reference an effect on the poor.

The first is the one about resumes being filtered by CV keywords and the poor not being able to afford professional resume services that tell them how to optimize their resume by including certain keywords.

The second is about resumes being filtered by distance from the job site. If an employer is located in an area with high-cost housing, filtering by distance discriminates against people who live a longer distance from that area, in housing that is more affordable to them.
You don't need "professional resume services" to include keywords in the resume and living far from the job site does not equate to being poor. I think the author is reaching.
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Old 09-05-2016, 03:38 PM
 
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Kronos is an evil Master. The one rule to all these tests is answer every question the way they want you to respond. NEVER tell the truth!
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Old 09-05-2016, 03:45 PM
 
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Living far from the jobsit, or for that matter being poor, is not a protected class, so discrimination on either of those is perfectly legal.
Might be legal, but it's frustrating for those of who are unable to drive, and have to rely on public transit.
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Old 09-05-2016, 04:13 PM
 
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Might be legal, but it's frustrating for those of who are unable to drive, and have to rely on public transit.
frustrating to employers when their employees can't show up on time either if they are so reliant on someone else driving

in cities without good transportation, some employees never show up
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