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So if you took all 2 weeks around the holidays, how did you take care of Dr. appointments, sick children, schools out for snow days, and the numerous personal things that people have to take care of during the business hours of 8-5PM? Just curious.
I don't have kids. Docs I would take a few hours off-which did not count as I am exempt, same with any other personal errand. Often I'd use 7 of 10 vacation days at Christmas/New Years, telecommute 2 days, use 3 vacation days to complete Thanksgiving Week off, and that week, I'd travel someplace new.
I don't have kids. Docs I would take a few hours off-which did not count as I am exempt, same with any other personal errand. Often I'd use 7 of 10 vacation days at Christmas/New Years, telecommute 2 days, use 3 vacation days to complete Thanksgiving Week off, and that week, I'd travel someplace new.
Non exempt / hourly employees don't get a few hours off for dr visits and personal errands. They have to use vacation time to do that. And they have to take vacation time for sick kids.
Non exempt / hourly employees don't get a few hours off for dr visits and personal errands. They have to use vacation time to do that. And they have to take vacation time for sick kids.
Sadly, many do not. Many years ago I was one of those non-exempt employees who had to use vacation time for every single thing that came up. I had no family to help on days when schools closed and when my son was sick. The only option I had was to work through lunch to make up the time. I guess those days haunt me because that's the atmosphere I'm afraid I will have to go back to. I am lucky that I was able to hold out for a better opportunity since I have another source of income.
Non exempt/hourly employees (especially women) are often powerless. They are often viewed as almost sub human and not deserving of any type of life outside of work. Here is an example of what I'm getting at. BTW this happened 15 years ago. I play a lot of league tennis and my league team advanced to the state tournament. That meant I had to take a Friday off work to play. I was highly criticized for taking off work for "recreation". 2 years later my boss took off a Friday for the same thing. However, he was recognized on the company bulletin board celebrating how he was a good employee, a good tennis player and had a well rounded life. Such a double standard. Maybe it was because I am a woman and he is a man, and corporate America is full of double standards for women. I think it was a combination of me being a woman and my job being administrative.
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Sadly, many do not. Many years ago I was one of those non-exempt employees who had to use vacation time for every single thing that came up. I had no family to help on days when schools closed and when my son was sick. The only option I had was to work through lunch to make up the time. I guess those days haunt me because that's the atmosphere I'm afraid I will have to go back to. I am lucky that I was able to hold out for a better opportunity since I have another source of income.
Non exempt/hourly employees (especially women) are often powerless. They are often viewed as almost sub human and not deserving of any type of life outside of work. Here is an example of what I'm getting at. BTW this happened 15 years ago. I play a lot of league tennis and my league team advanced to the state tournament. That meant I had to take a Friday off work to play. I was highly criticized for taking off work for "recreation". 2 years later my boss took off a Friday for the same thing. However, he was recognized on the company bulletin board celebrating how he was a good employee, a good tennis player and had a well rounded life. Such a double standard. Maybe it was because I am a woman and he is a man, and corporate America is full of double standards for women. I think it was a combination of me being a woman and my job being administrative.
Maybe since he was likely exempt-they knew he'd have to work as much as needed w/o extra pay to get it done.
If you are willing to collect OT, you must be willing to provide them with all hours required.
Maybe since he was likely exempt-they knew he'd have to work as much as needed w/o extra pay to get it done.
If you are willing to collect OT, you must be willing to provide them with all hours required.
What does OT have to do with this? We weren't allowed to collect OT unless pre approved. And it was never approved. So if I worked extra hours I had to put 40 on my time sheet. Exempt employers were not monitored and many worked 30 hours week. They were the privileged class.
What does OT have to do with this? We weren't allowed to collect OT unless pre approved. And it was never approved. So if I worked extra hours I had to put 40 on my time sheet. Exempt employers were not monitored and many worked 30 hours week. They were the privileged class.
This is pretty routine. Just because you have never heard of it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. My former employer was old fashioned in many ways, but they were good about vacation and understood that people needed some time off work.
I have to say I do not care for your attitude. You have a very self entitled way about you.
I have to say I do not care for your attitude. You have a very self entitled way about you.
Correct. Latest employer, when OP rejected offer, dodged a bullet IMO.
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Maybe it was because I am a woman and he is a man, and corporate America is full of double standards for women. I think it was a combination of me being a woman and my job being administrative.
