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Old 01-20-2018, 04:02 PM
 
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So, I'm in an area that I want to move from (Provo, but with a pretty good job), and got an offer in an area where I want to move to (Albuquerque). A while back, I had about a 20 minute phone call with a recruiter that went about as one would expect a recruiter screening call to go, and I was expecting a round 2 with technical people that worked in the office that I'd be working in.
Instead, I got an offer letter in the inbox. The pay is about 9% less than I'm earning now, but that's not a huge issue. What concerns me is that I haven't seen the office, talked to the people that I'd be working with, or even have a particularly detailed view of the company. Though this is a government contractor, which could complicate things.
From glassdoor reviews, I see comments about high turnover (in the office that I'd be working in, one dated from January of this year) and complaints that they need to re-think their hiring practices.

It seems to me that the company both hires and fires too quickly, and I'd really prefer to not be part of a mass-layoff 6 months from now, especially since it involves relocation. At the same time, there are limited jobs in Albuquerque in my field.

Red-flag or am I worrying too much?
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Old 01-20-2018, 04:11 PM
 
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Red Flag! Keep looking.
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Old 01-20-2018, 04:22 PM
 
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But, yeah, I'm still looking at other positions. I'd rather been an alternate-but-not-too-far location (like Phoenix or Denver) with the right job than be in my preferred location with a shaky company. I had a year of unemployment in 2009 and definitely don't want to go through that again.
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Old 01-20-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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If the recruiter is hiring without the hiring manager doing an interview, RUN!

Hiring manger's criteria is "Can they fog a mirror?" I'll fire him, if he sucks anyway.
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Old 01-20-2018, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. That is a horrible sign. And why on earth would you even cinsjder taking a role where you have met none of the team or your boss?
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Old 01-26-2018, 10:38 AM
 
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I was given an offer once for a job that required relocation without meeting my hiring manager in person. I took the offer and regretted it.

Something is off if they don't want to meet you in person. For your own sake, you need to get a feel for the office and the people you will be working with.
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Old 01-26-2018, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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It's a big no generally speaking and an even bigger no to relocating for such an "offer". You might get there and find out the job doesn't exist.
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Old 01-27-2018, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I was given an offer once for a job that required relocation without meeting my hiring manager in person. I took the offer and regretted it.

Something is off if they don't want to meet you in person. For your own sake, you need to get a feel for the office and the people you will be working with.
I took a job without meeting my boss in person, I met one of his peers in person and had a couple of phone interviews. The role was remote. It was generally fine and I am still in touch with him and many colleagues from there now.
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:06 PM
 
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Run and don't look back.
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Old 02-04-2018, 09:53 PM
 
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Heh. No more contact from them for two weeks after I asked the recruiter (over the phone, at least) for an on-site.

Job search continues.
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