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I wouldn't automatically think any of those things. So many factors play into this. What field? What market? What personal characteristics? What degree/school?
If someone had NO job in all that time, I would have more questions. If someone wasn't set in a career, there are too many factors to judge.
Not finding a job for years after graduation shouldn't be an issue in today's economy. If you can't find something, it's on you. YMMV on something in your field.
This was a real issue for the cohorts that graduating in the Great Recession until maybe 2013/2014 or so. I was very lucky to make $15/hr back in 2010 when I graduated in east TN. Many of my friends were unemployed or in junk jobs like food service. Jobs were being lost, even in the major metros. Hiring was basically seized up for quite awhile.
A lot of those folks didn't recover well. One of my best friends had a finance degree from the state flagship. He got stuck working as an account manager at a rent-a-center and never got back on track. I have friends, who are now in their early 30s, who never got onto a career track after the damage in the recession.
If somebody/anybody was 4 years without a job, then honestly I'd think they unless they were disabled, that they were either lazy or living off somebody else.
I would have turned to retail, food industry, or general labor well before the 4 year mark.
In terms of finding a job in your desired field, that could easily take 4 years, or never happen in your life, depending on various factors. Employers can be extremely picky and things like ageism are very real.
We have a poster (I believe he may now be in his late 40s), or used to, who has a degree and has worked as a cook in greasy spoons since he graduated a couple or three decades ago.
The reason? He didn't go to law school like he planned because he didn't want to accrue more debt. In the meantime he defaulted on his student loans and had judgements filed against him.
According to him he was unable to use his degree to find any job over the years. I believe it was in one of the Social Sciences.
In general there are not enough good quality high wage jobs to satisfy the number of high aptitude college graduates. There is a structural underemployment/unemployment problem and this will cause a societal rift in about 20 years. (It's already bubbling up now).
The problem is, once you hit that 6 month mark or longer, you are branded and it becomes extremely challenging after that, even for a low-wage job.
Always, always work - even if it is a horrible job. Employers are very judgmental when you have been out of work (sometimes it is justified, sometimes it is not), degree or no degree.
The problem is, once you hit that 6 month mark or longer, you are branded and it becomes extremely challenging after that, even for a low-wage job.
Always, always work - even if it is a horrible job. Employers are very judgmental when you have been out of work (sometimes it is justified, sometimes it is not), degree or no degree.
Absolutely.
Every single survey, study, etc... has proven this over and over.
Grads who don't find a job after 6+ months from graduation, are not wanted much in the professional world.
It really is too bad, because companies are passing over a lot of good hires and then complaining about how they can't find anyone.
Last edited by High Altitude; 10-05-2018 at 06:09 PM..
1) I would think their degree is not a functional one (such as Liberal Arts or General Studies).
Not thinking very carefully I'd say. Many attorneys have undergrad degrees in Liberal Arts such as Philosophy. I know many people in the IT field that don't have STEMS degrees. What you have the degree in really doesn't matter much anymore, just that you have one and it's from an accredited school. Employers want experience plus a degree.
If you met someone who could not find a career, let’s say 4 years after graduating. What would you assume about this person?
Is it natural?
Is it his or her fault?
Poor networking?
Not applying to as many jobs as they should?
Generally most people I meet say you’ll get a job somewhere 6 months to a 1.5 years after graduation if you make it your job to look for work and network. Do you guys agree?
I'd say they didn't have direction of what they wanted to do from the start or they continued to change it.
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