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Old 12-06-2008, 06:50 PM
 
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Good for you. You must've done an incredible job answering the phones this year to get that fat bonus!
I work remotely 100% of the time, so the only phone I answer is my own.
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Old 12-06-2008, 07:05 PM
 
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Y'all need to get back on topic and fast. Stop the attacks on each other.
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Old 12-06-2008, 07:21 PM
 
Location: NJ
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With today's job market, I wouldn't do anything different then what they set up. That's my opinion.

I believe you think it might not be right or you wouldn't ask!!!
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:13 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Well that's just absurd.

I wouldn't be causing you ANY inconvenience. In fact, you wouldn't have to do anything other than what you've already done. How would I be seen as a pain in the ass in this scenario?
I am giving you the opinion that is often expressed by my manager, who hires about 30 people a year, who all travel in for multiple interviews. He has to approve the flight. If there is a change, he is aware of it.

I've encountered this situation in the past, several times, and he looks poorly upon people changing interview reservations that have already been made. He sees it as a sign of someone who is going to want "more, more, more". The notification that someone is changing their flight plans is met with a sigh.

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Well, luckily a travel secretary's opinion doesn't really matter when it comes to hiring decisions.
You would be really surprised. That "Travel Secretary" has most likely worked very closely with your hiring manager for quite some time.

My boss trusts my opinion and often asks me how the applicant was during the set up of the interview and travel. The way applicants act towards support staff reflects upon their personality as a whole. When it has come down to two people for 1 spot - my boss FREQUENTLY asks what I think.

I make close to 6 figures as a "Travel Secretary", as you put it.

I don't answer phones either.

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Old 12-08-2008, 06:01 AM
 
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I am giving you the opinion that is often expressed by my manager, who hires about 30 people a year, who all travel in for multiple interviews. He has to approve the flight. If there is a change, he is aware of it.

I've encountered this situation in the past, several times, and he looks poorly upon people changing interview reservations that have already been made. He sees it as a sign of someone who is going to want "more, more, more". The notification that someone is changing their flight plans is met with a sigh.



You would be really surprised. That "Travel Secretary" has most likely worked very closely with your hiring manager for quite some time.

My boss trusts my opinion and often asks me how the applicant was during the set up of the interview and travel. The way applicants act towards support staff reflects upon their personality as a whole. When it has come down to two people for 1 spot - my boss FREQUENTLY asks what I think.

I make close to 6 figures as a "Travel Secretary", as you put it.

I don't answer phones either.
Let people like him think what they want. The best part is that we "secretary's" are usually higher paid then the low level "executive wanna-be's" who think that they know it all. I guess that's the reward for dealing with them all day.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:18 AM
 
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Let people like him think what they want. The best part is that we "secretary's" are usually higher paid then the low level "executive wanna-be's" who think that they know it all. I guess that's the reward for dealing with them all day.
You sure talk about titles alot for someone who "doesn't care" about them.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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I would call the airline and see if you can pay to switch the ticket. If you don't take the initial flight Monday you may not be able to take the return flight home, or so I've heard. Never actually tried it.

Personally I would not change it, or take another flight. If you do not take the flight, A) your return flight will likely be canceled B) They probably will find out that you were not on that initial flight...
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:38 AM
 
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I don't think it's absurd. The implication from your original post is that the company had already bought the ticket. Unless they bought you a ticket without mentioning it to you first, you had a chance to make this request prior to them making the arrangements. The person you are interviewing with is probably not the one who made the arrangements, so it's no skin off his nose. The AA or travel secretary, on the other hand, might consider it a nuisance if s/he had to change the itinerary.

Luckily, it sounds like it has worked out for you here, but at another company, you might have had a different outcome.
This is not necessarily true. I had an out of town job interview last month. When I spoke with the hiring authority, we talked about having me come in a day or two ahead of time or stay a day or two afterwards--all at their expense. I told him I was flexible either way. When the admin booked the flights, she did neither and they were non-refundable.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:46 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I have booked interviewees to come in a day early or stay a day late.

What raises flags with my boss is changing itineraries after the fact. He is not a fan of that.

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This is not necessarily true. I had an out of town job interview last month. When I spoke with the hiring authority, we talked about having me come in a day or two ahead of time or stay a day or two afterwards--all at their expense. I told him I was flexible either way. When the admin booked the flights, she did neither and they were non-refundable.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:55 AM
 
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This is not necessarily true. I had an out of town job interview last month. When I spoke with the hiring authority, we talked about having me come in a day or two ahead of time or stay a day or two afterwards--all at their expense. I told him I was flexible either way. When the admin booked the flights, she did neither and they were non-refundable.
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I have booked interviewees to come in a day early or stay a day late.

What raises flags with my boss is changing itineraries after the fact. He is not a fan of that.

Well, I chose not to rock the boat and flew in on the assigned flights (3000 mile flight, all day interview and all done in just under 36 hours). But it didn't leave me with a great impression of the company. If internal communication is that poor with something that simple, then there are larger problems. Folks need to remember that the company is being interviewed by the candidate as well as vice-versa.
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