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Old 04-24-2009, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Guys,

I know you're trying to help out here. I know that. But what I don't think you know is what some of the stuff your average person undergoes during the interview process. Dodging potentially discriminatory questions is becoming my forte, because YES, they do ask them:

How old are you?
Are you a Christian?
What political affiliation do you claim?
Who did you vote for in the last election?
What is the national origin of your last name?

To name a few. Not to mention the insipid personality tests that I have to take over and over and over. I feel like I should have a copy of the Meyers-Briggs and Keirsey Temperament Sorter attached to my vitae.

Getting around the personal questions doesn't work; they push. Again, you have no idea what it's like. And this is for a job that pays $10-13/hour, low-level stuff. Dear lord. What do people go through who are seeking upper-level management positions or who have a specialized skill?

I know that there's really no way you can vet these people. You guys are probably hurting, business-wise, too, and perhaps you can't afford to just drop clients like you normally would. But just know that it's hard for us job-seekers, and that rarely is there any courtesy displayed or even a "Thank you for your time."
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:52 PM
 
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It may be the type of job or the area where you live. But personally, out of over 20 years, i have been asked only one time, one of those questions on your list.

Also, it is the sign of the times, to try to psychoanalyze people. Psychology is always trying to find its way into the door.

But then again, I can count on two hands times i have had to go through the psch job tests. One was for a paint store online and the second was for a restaurant job at a hotel.

I think they do them primarily to cut down on stealing.

So, perhaps you could go for secretarial jobs, they don't tend to do psych tests, perhaps for a printing company.

good luck!
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Old 04-25-2009, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Austin
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These are administrative/clerical jobs -- that's what's astounding. One was a filing job for only 15 hours a week at little more than minimum wage!
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Old 04-25-2009, 01:21 PM
 
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These are administrative/clerical jobs -- that's what's astounding. One was a filing job for only 15 hours a week at little more than minimum wage!

Texas is a more intrusive state than the others...

I base this comment on texas posters who discuss tenant/landlord law and treatment of nurses.
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Old 04-25-2009, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I would tend to agree with you. I worked in other states, and things were very, very different. Employers are very much "in your personal business" here.
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Old 04-25-2009, 02:11 PM
 
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I would tend to agree with you. I worked in other states, and things were very, very different. Employers are very much "in your personal business" here.

Would you tell me more? I am interested! I read a lot of nursing articles about their blacklists,,, but is this prevalent in other fields?

cheers!
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Old 04-25-2009, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I have only worked in one field, honestly. I also found that being a state employee has its advantages -- they are much more professional and hire based on ability and expertise. Same thing with the university, where I also worked. Any time you're looking at a very large employer, there seems to be more professionalism in the interviewing and hiring process. Also, with large entities such as the state or university, employees are given a grievance process, and I have often seen it turn out in the employee's favor, especially in cases of bullying or on-the-job harassment.

Don't know about nursing blacklist, but teachers ... they have a rough go of it. The smallest "infraction" goes on record until they file grievance. I would never teach in Texas! These poor people go through hell.

The smaller businesses (less than 30) are another story, too. Oh. My. God. This is where all of those wacky questions are being asked.
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Old 04-25-2009, 03:14 PM
 
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I have only worked in one field, honestly. I also found that being a state employee has its advantages -- they are much more professional and hire based on ability and expertise. Same thing with the university, where I also worked. Any time you're looking at a very large employer, there seems to be more professionalism in the interviewing and hiring process. Also, with large entities such as the state or university, employees are given a grievance process, and I have often seen it turn out in the employee's favor, especially in cases of bullying or on-the-job harassment.

Don't know about nursing blacklist, but teachers ... they have a rough go of it. The smallest "infraction" goes on record until they file grievance. I would never teach in Texas! These poor people go through hell.

The smaller businesses (less than 30) are another story, too. Oh. My. God. This is where all of those wacky questions are being asked.

Thankyou!!
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Old 04-25-2009, 06:33 PM
 
Location: City, State
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I'm confused... are you angry at recruiters because hiring managers are (supposedly) asking you illegal questions??
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Old 04-25-2009, 06:47 PM
 
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I think what she is saying is that Recruiters who are obviously getting paid by the employer, should try to understand the candidates frustration with 1) unethical questions, 2) no thank you or by your leave, 3) psych testing for jobs that to the reasonable person would appear over the top. 4) etc...

And that recruiters who she says are obviously just trying to make a living, should be more up front about the proces, more encouraging and more appreciative of their candidates who they send to these, sometimes unethical employers.

Well, that is my take on her post! hope it helps ;-)
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