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I don't recall discussing a timetable nor did I say that EVERYONE who is out of work is employable. I simply said that in this job market there are people who are being interviewed, at my company alone, who are not usually available in this manner and that EVERYONE who is out of work is not necessarily unemployable or lazy. Not sure what your point is unless it is just to arbitrarily disagree for the sake of disagreeing.
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Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy
I disagree, if someone was out of work for 15 months or more it would be easy to think they are not employable or lazy
Or it might be an alright work atmosphere; just not a terribly skilled interviewer. I have, unfortunately, known plenty of people who are good at what they do but when it comes to interviewing/candidate selection they really were shortsighted. If that was all I had to assess their intelligence on, I probably would've come to the wrong conclusion! I merely view this as a situation where I am able to bring someone in who is more likely to succeed in the role and able to ramp up quicker; someone who also seems more likely to stay if they are successful.
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I agree. Imagine the horrible work atmosphere you'd have to work in. Everybody would be setting you up for failure to see "if you really can do your job" ...... ugh okay that makes so much sense.
I disagree, if someone was out of work for 15 months or more it would be easy to think they are not employable or lazy
You have quite a fan club, don't you? There are MANY reasons someone may be out of work for a year or more. What if they were ill? Had family problems and had to take care of a sick relative? Had a baby? Stayed home while their spouse worked...
Maybe the jobs conflicted with their lifestyle..some people do more than go to work and watch tv.
If you look at someone in your shoes, you could take almost ANY job. You're single without kids. You don't have any demands nor do you have to consider anyone but yourself.
You have quite a fan club, don't you? There are MANY reasons someone may be out of work for a year or more. What if they were ill? Had family problems and had to take care of a sick relative? Had a baby? Stayed home while their spouse worked...
Maybe the jobs conflicted with their lifestyle..some people do more than go to work and watch tv.
If you look at someone in your shoes, you could take almost ANY job. You're single without kids. You don't have any demands nor do you have to consider anyone but yourself.
I'm just being realistic, it would be easy for an employer to think negative if a person's resume stated their last job was in 2006 or 2007. Regardless of what the reasons are, i'm just saying it wouldn't look good. That's all I thought about when I was orking because I never wanted a different year to be on my resume from the time I sent in my resume.
I have to agree. Life happens. People could be out of work for long periods of time due to different situations. Things are not always so black and white, and fit into neat little boxes all of the time as much as we would like.
I'm just being realistic, it would be easy for an employer to think negative if a person's resume stated their last job was in 2006 or 2007. Regardless of what the reasons are, i'm just saying it wouldn't look good. That's all I thought about when I was orking because I never wanted a different year to be on my resume from the time I sent in my resume.
You are so off base it's pathetic. Gaps in employment are easily explained in the cover letter, and most employers are perfectly aware that people have life situations which arise that cause people to leave the labor market for a period of time. Get over yourself Fruit Loop Boy, and open your eyes. For someone who is a career counselor, you are really an epic fail.
False! The longer someone is unemployed the harder it is going to be to land on your feet. Employers/hiring managers do not understand how tough it is out there and still assume in many cases that if you have a long gap of unemployment there is something terribly wrong with you. You can attempt to explain it all you want, but it is likely they are not interested in your excuses.
Most hiring managers truly believe that if you were laid off something is wrong with you (they would have found a spot for you if you were really good) and if you are still unemployed after a long period of time that others were sharp to not take a risk on you.
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Originally Posted by annerk
You are so off base it's pathetic. Gaps in employment are easily explained in the cover letter, and most employers are perfectly aware that people have life situations which arise that cause people to leave the labor market for a period of time. Get over yourself Fruit Loop Boy, and open your eyes. For someone who is a career counselor, you are really an epic fail.
False! The longer someone is unemployed the harder it is going to be to land on your feet. Employers/hiring managers do not understand how tough it is out there and still assume in many cases that if you have a long gap of unemployment there is something terribly wrong with you. You can attempt to explain it all you want, but it is likely they are not interested in your excuses.
Most hiring managers truly believe that if you were laid off something is wrong with you (they would have found a spot for you if you were really good) and if you are still unemployed after a long period of time that others were sharp to not take a risk on you.
Oh please. I know MANY women who have left the labor force to be a stay-at-home mom who had ZERO problem re-entering the workforce five years later as lawyers, doctors, CPA's, professors, sales execs, you name it.
You have to interview more applicants today to find a good candidate. Many applicants are not prepared and don't really seem to care. I remember a applicant that incorrectly spelled the job title and it was right on the application. I have also seen applicants that freeze during the interview. Applicants today have the disadvantage of the shear amount of information that is available to companies that use online databases and social networking sites to check up on potential applicants.
The fact that you mispelled "sheer" makes this ironic and lolworthy I'm a spelling nazi myself.
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This is so untrue
I'm a spelling nazi myself.
