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Old 09-27-2010, 11:15 AM
 
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In Secret Jewish heritage converts neo-Nazi, CNN International tells the story of a neo-Nazi husband and wife who embraced Judaism after discovering that they actually had Jewish roots:
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Old 09-27-2010, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Wouldn't be awesome of all bigots found out that they were that which they hate! Although - I guess it wouldn't really work with people who were prejudiced against homosexuals since you couldn't really discover that you are actually gay... But for everything else - that would be pretty awesome!
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Old 09-27-2010, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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Well, in a way that does happen (people 'discovering' they are gay) . . .how often do we hear a story on the news about some new politician being caught soliciting gay prostitutes, etc., or carrying on a homosexual relationship . . .when their public stance has been 100% anti-gay? True, this isn't really them "discovering" they are gay -- they knew full well and chose to live out that aspect of their life in secret, while condemning homosexuals publicly. Sigh.
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Old 09-27-2010, 09:56 PM
 
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wow, that's a really powerful story.
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Old 09-27-2010, 10:01 PM
 
Location: New York
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Default morals over

The social Darwinism that drives racism/patriotism like Nazism is a huge pile of idiocy and based in total falsehoods. This is why every nationalistic philosophy is doomed to failure.

The measure of a man is in his morals regardless of the color of his skin or nation of birth.
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Old 09-28-2010, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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What else can I say but...mazel tov!
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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At least 40-50,000 people living in Poland today have one or more Jewish ancestors. Although a few thousand have recently discovered this long hidden fact, the majority of Poles with Jewish roots are unaware of their Jewish heritage. Now that Poland is a free country at last, an increasing number of members of the older generation are willing to answer questions about their grandparents openly and honestly. Sometimes all they know are hints about some relatives who knew some Jewish words, cooked some foods in a non-Polish way, or who disappeared during the occupation.

Many Poles have an ancestor who married into a Polish family a generation or two prior to the war and may have been baptized. Others know that they, or one of their parents, were orphans or were adopted by a Polish family. Zegota, the Polish rescue organization, saved over 2,500 Jews during the war. Most all of them were young children, and almost all of them were adopted by Polish families or were placed in Catholic convents and orphanages such as the Ursulins and the 20 orphanages headed by Mother Matylda Getter (2 of the 17 orders of Nuns who rescued Jewish children during the war).

If you think you might have an ancestor who was Jewish, but no one in your family seems to know, you can use a introspective personality and character test to give you some hints.

1- Do you like to ask questions especially about religion? But when you asked them as a child, you were told faith is a gift from God and you shouldn’t question it. This never satisfied you, although others didn’t question it.

2- The trinity never made any sense to you even as a young child. You prayed to God the father more easily than Jesus, the son of God, even though you were told to pray to Jesus. You never could believe that people who didn’t believe in Jesus couldn’t go to Heaven.

3- On first learning of the Holocaust you reacted more emotionally than your friends or other members of your family. You feel some sense of connection with the Jewish struggle to defend Israel.

4- You have an attraction to Jewish music, culture, and Jewish festivals. You have always been more open to people who were culturally, nationally or religiously different from your own family than your friends or class mates.

If you answer yes to three of these four items you probably have Jewish ancestors. Many, but not
all, people who answer yes to all four items will be interested in learning more about their Jewish roots. If you become very interested in studying Judaism you might have a Jewish soul. According to Jewish mystical teachings (Kabbalah), many (not all) people reincarnate after they die. This is especially true for Jews who died and had no Jewish children who survived them (Sefer HaPliya). Their souls reincarnate in one of their non-Jewish descendants who is drawn to; Jewish things, Jewish people and Judaism. For more information see God, Sex and Kabbalah by Rabbi Allen S. Maller.

If the following item also applies to you, you certainly have a Jewish soul.

5- When you start to learn about Judaism: the ideas and values seem reasonable to you; the traditions and heritage are very attractive to you; and those around you, and you yourself, are surprised that you slowly come to feel you are coming home.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Eastwood, Orlando FL
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At least 40-50,000 people living in Poland today have one or more Jewish ancestors. Although a few thousand have recently discovered this long hidden fact, the majority of Poles with Jewish roots are unaware of their Jewish heritage. Now that Poland is a free country at last, an increasing number of members of the older generation are willing to answer questions about their grandparents openly and honestly. Sometimes all they know are hints about some relatives who knew some Jewish words, cooked some foods in a non-Polish way, or who disappeared during the occupation.

Many Poles have an ancestor who married into a Polish family a generation or two prior to the war and may have been baptized. Others know that they, or one of their parents, were orphans or were adopted by a Polish family. Zegota, the Polish rescue organization, saved over 2,500 Jews during the war. Most all of them were young children, and almost all of them were adopted by Polish families or were placed in Catholic convents and orphanages such as the Ursulins and the 20 orphanages headed by Mother Matylda Getter (2 of the 17 orders of Nuns who rescued Jewish children during the war).

If you think you might have an ancestor who was Jewish, but no one in your family seems to know, you can use a introspective personality and character test to give you some hints.

1- Do you like to ask questions especially about religion? But when you asked them as a child, you were told faith is a gift from God and you shouldn’t question it. This never satisfied you, although others didn’t question it.

2- The trinity never made any sense to you even as a young child. You prayed to God the father more easily than Jesus, the son of God, even though you were told to pray to Jesus. You never could believe that people who didn’t believe in Jesus couldn’t go to Heaven.

3- On first learning of the Holocaust you reacted more emotionally than your friends or other members of your family. You feel some sense of connection with the Jewish struggle to defend Israel.

4- You have an attraction to Jewish music, culture, and Jewish festivals. You have always been more open to people who were culturally, nationally or religiously different from your own family than your friends or class mates.

If you answer yes to three of these four items you probably have Jewish ancestors. Many, but not
all, people who answer yes to all four items will be interested in learning more about their Jewish roots. If you become very interested in studying Judaism you might have a Jewish soul. According to Jewish mystical teachings (Kabbalah), many (not all) people reincarnate after they die. This is especially true for Jews who died and had no Jewish children who survived them (Sefer HaPliya). Their souls reincarnate in one of their non-Jewish descendants who is drawn to; Jewish things, Jewish people and Judaism. For more information see God, Sex and Kabbalah by Rabbi Allen S. Maller.

If the following item also applies to you, you certainly have a Jewish soul.

5- When you start to learn about Judaism: the ideas and values seem reasonable to you; the traditions and heritage are very attractive to you; and those around you, and you yourself, are surprised that you slowly come to feel you are coming home.
You just described me for my entire life. Thats why I converted to Judaism almost 10 years ago
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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I won't indulge; I should repent. It is lent, you know. Now, I shall be a bore until I socialize again.
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Old 03-19-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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I'll take the flawed quiz

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1- Do you like to ask questions especially about religion? But when you asked them as a child, you were told faith is a gift from God and you shouldn’t question it. This never satisfied you, although others didn’t question it.
Yes
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2- The trinity never made any sense to you even as a young child. You prayed to God the father more easily than Jesus, the son of God, even though you were told to pray to Jesus. You never could believe that people who didn’t believe in Jesus couldn’t go to Heaven.
Yes, but xians do not pray to jesus, most prayers are with the salutation of heavenly father..., no one prays to the hs either, only invoked in song.
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3- On first learning of the Holocaust you reacted more emotionally than your friends or other members of your family. You feel some sense of connection with the Jewish struggle to defend Israel.
Yes, any normal human would show empathy. My dad had some sick ideas for awhile mostly driven by politics. Plus there were many movies reminding us of this horror inhuman history.
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4- You have an attraction to Jewish music, culture, and Jewish festivals. You have always been more open to people who were culturally, nationally or religiously different from your own family than your friends or class mates.
Yes. Jewish music is catchy written mostly in a minor key and easy on the ears. Jewish festivals only out of curiosity, always found different cultures intriguing, that is not an indicator of anything other that curiosity. But then I went to school with jews who were absent on their holidays.
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If you answer yes to three of these four items you probably have Jewish ancestors. Many, but not
all, people who answer yes to all four items will be interested in learning more about their Jewish roots. If you become very interested in studying Judaism you might have a Jewish soul. According to Jewish mystical teachings (Kabbalah), many (not all) people reincarnate after they die. This is especially true for Jews who died and had no Jewish children who survived them (Sefer HaPliya). Their souls reincarnate in one of their non-Jewish descendants who is drawn to; Jewish things, Jewish people and Judaism. For more information see God, Sex and Kabbalah by Rabbi Allen S. Maller.

If the following item also applies to you, you certainly have a Jewish soul.

5- When you start to learn about Judaism: the ideas and values seem reasonable to you; the traditions and heritage are very attractive to you; and those around you, and you yourself, are surprised that you slowly come to feel you are coming home.
Only from an xian perspective as the roots of the religion was founded on judiasm.

I find Jews on a whole more tolerable as they do not take everything literally like xians do. Most are merely cultural identity yet I tend to side with the plight of the Palestinians when there is conflict in Israel.

With how the Jews must have interbred in Europe, the chances are very good that my EU roots may have some Jewish heritage.

As for the soul bits, there is no empirical evidence of a soul, merely speculation of an ancient culture that invented gods like all other cultures.

If xianity never was invented, chances are that judiasm would have faded away too by now. Only the xian crusades and the link to the holy city Jerusalem and all the crap that went along with it kept the Jewish religion/roots relevant. This of course is my opinion based on my research into xianity and its roots which obviously included judaism.

IMO the current Jewish culture is a reincarnation of the original seeing that here are only ±20M Jews worldwide in a global population of 6.4Bn folk. Obviously we shall never have all the details as much of EU history was not really accurately recorded outside of the predominant xian religion who no doubt rewrote it to suit their agenda.
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