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Post Date Hebrew Calendar: 19-Av-5771
Post Date Roman Calendar: 2011-08-19
Keeping the Seventh Day Sabbath Holy is the Fourth of the Ten Commandments.
Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exodus 20:9 Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
Exodus 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Keeping the Seventh Day Sabbath is part of keeping the Ten Commandments.
Christ did NOT do away with His Father's Commandments but kept them and told His disciples to keep the Commandments which includes the 7th Day Sabbath.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Seems he 'freed' you from just about anything that you find inconvenient.
If Jesus had instructed us to uphold the law of the Sabbath, I would willingly do so. He is the Lord of the Sabbath, and He is my Lord. However, the example set by Him and His disciples shows that the old law of the Sabbath is no longer required to be followed. That is what I read in my Bible and what I believe. Each of the other nine Ten Commandments is upheld as still binding elsewhere in the New Testament. I am wasting time replying to you I know (you are only a mocker), but there may be others genuinely interested in debating this point of faith.
If Jesus had instructed us to uphold the law of the Sabbath, I would willingly do so.
But he did tell you to uphold it.....
For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
I don't appear to have seen Heaven and Earth pass away....did I miss it?
Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgements, and his commandments, always.
Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations ... an everlasting covenant.
Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth. Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them for ever.
Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgements endureth for ever.
Do you have a problem understanding the words "for ever" and "everlasting"?
If Jesus had instructed us to uphold the law of the Sabbath, I would willingly do so. He is the Lord of the Sabbath, and He is my Lord. However, the example set by Him and His disciples shows that the old law of the Sabbath is no longer required to be followed. That is what I read in my Bible and what I believe. Each of the other nine Ten Commandments is upheld as still binding elsewhere in the New Testament. I am wasting time replying to you I know (you are only a mocker), but there may be others genuinely interested in debating this point of faith.
Raffs is making a very valid point. No-where does it say that God's law will last for ever but only until he sends His Only Begotten Son to say 'All bets off', or even 'the other commandments are binding - forget that one'. That, one would expect, should have been worth some kind of warning better than buried prophetic hints in Psalms or Isaiah.
What Raffs is (I suppose) asking, is: doesn't the gospel passage completely clash with the commandment to observe the sabbath set out in the OT? If so, was Jesus justified in saying so? If not then, if we observe the Sabbath as Brrpthh above said, it should be on Sunday and you should all be doing it in the Synagogue. If he is, of course, then Sunday observance is at least optional or is contrary to Jesus' teaching.
You will be familiar with C. S Lewis' Lord, Liar or lunatic fallacy. If Jesus claimed falsely on his own authority to abrogate the Sabbath commandment, Liar or lunatic, perhaps, but not Lord of the sabbath or anything else.
I think we would both be 'genuinely interested' in debating this 'point of faith'.
Isnt it odd that one commandment is supposedly now null and void?
Ya' think the 'honor' they mother and father' one might be next? "Girl spanked to death" //www.city-data.com/forum/athei...me-god-un.html
You have to admire tthttf's blitzkrieg style: make a resounding declaration and then vanish with the breeze--the better to avoid being challenged or criticized, I imagine. At least he didn't finish this one with "Wake up, America!" (We have to be thankful for small favors).
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