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Old 02-18-2015, 12:09 AM
 
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So, the point I was making can be summed up in the word Yetzer Hara(evil inclination)?...
In a way yes, as it meant to be the the wrong choice compared to yetzer hatov(good inclination) which tends to be the right choice.

 
Old 02-18-2015, 04:56 AM
 
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In a way yes, as it meant to be the the wrong choice compared to yetzer hatov(good inclination) which tends to be the right choice.
And would it be to over the top for me to say that if one is busy focusing on Mitzvos that one would be less inclined to let the yetzer hara have its way?...
 
Old 02-18-2015, 05:22 AM
 
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And would it be to over the top for me to say that if one is busy focusing on Mitzvos that one would be less inclined to let the yetzer hara have its way?...
Yes! And one step better, when one is learning Torah, the yetzer hara cannot harm you. Theoretically, one could live forever if one sat and learned Torah 24 hours a day with no distraction.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 06:17 AM
 
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And would it be to over the top for me to say that if one is busy focusing on Mitzvos that one would be less inclined to let the yetzer hara have its way?...
Yes it would. Once one learns the Mitzot and understands them, there is no reason to focus on them as they would have become second nature to do them. There are 613 Mitzvot, yet there is only 1 that states to learn the Torah and 1 that states not to deviate from it. Nearly all the rest are related to having a life outside of just studying the Torah.

Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)
 
Old 02-18-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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Yes! And one step better, when one is learning Torah, the yetzer hara cannot harm you. Theoretically, one could live forever if one sat and learned Torah 24 hours a day with no distraction.
So, you are saying "yes" that it would be too over the top?...
 
Old 02-18-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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So, you are saying "yes" that it would be too over the top?...
No. Not over the top at all.
 
Old 02-19-2015, 04:51 AM
 
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No. Not over the top at all.
So what's the difference between HaSatan and HaYetzer HaRa?...
 
Old 02-19-2015, 05:51 AM
 
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So what's the difference between HaSatan and HaYetzer HaRa?...
Go back to post 2049. PourMeAnother answered that question quite nicely.
 
Old 02-19-2015, 06:48 AM
 
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So what's the difference between HaSatan and HaYetzer HaRa?...
Well according to #2049 the adversary (hasatan) becomes oneself.
 
Old 02-19-2015, 07:36 AM
 
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Richard, let me take a stab at it this way, perhaps infuse a little hasidic thought into this concept.

1) If G-d desired a perfect world, he would have created it as such. Yet, he created it with imperfections, and charged us, his creations, with fixing the world in order to create a dwelling place for him. This is the purpose of creation, and our existence.

2) In creating the infrastructure for man to perfect the world, we were given free choice to choose right or wrong. Jews typically phrase them in terms of Yezter Hara and Yezter Tov - loosely the good and evil inclinations.

3) Most phrasing for evil, and giving it a name, leader, ie the devil, satan, has less to do with the day to day, and more the overall approach to perceiving evil in the world. Let me explain as follows. When there is an evil decree against a segment of ppl, we are more likely to say the Satan has presented an argument before HaShem, and this is therefore his will, as opposed to when you push your sister down the stairs, its not that Satan caused it, but you chose to do so.

Does that help at all?
Well, there is Job....
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