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Regarding civil law in Israel, in 2013, the minimum marriage age in Israel was raised to 18, from a previous age of 17. Previously, the marriage age was 18 for males and 17 for females, before they were equalised at 17 years.
Is that a civil marriage? How does a religious marriage overlap (reconciling the difference in age allowances)?
Is that a civil marriage? How does a religious marriage overlap (reconciling the difference in age allowances)?
in the USA in almost every state there are exceptions made to civil law that allow someone under the age of legal marriage to still get married legally, for instance with a parent's permission, or approval by judge.
in Israel I do not know if there is something similar in civil law.
"IN the United States today, thousands of children under 18 have recently taken marital vows, often with approval from local judges. The minimum marriage age in most states is 18, but every state allows exceptions under which children under age 18 can wed.
"The first common exception is for children marrying with “parental consent.” Most states allow children age 16 or 17 to marry if their parents sign the marriage license application. The second common marriage-age exception is for children marrying with judicial approval. This exception lowers the marriage age below 16 in many states, and many states do not specify a minimum age. Judges in those states can allow the marriage even of an elementary school student.
For instance in New Jersey between 1995 and 2012, there were 3,481 children married in New Jersey. Most were age 16 or 17 and married with parental consent, but 163 were between ages 13 and 15, meaning a judge approved their marriages"
A child, 14 years old, is too young for marriage regardless of law, country, religion or sex. At least in modern civilized society that is...
That may be why folks think it is too young, they consider them children and I'd say that this is because, as a society, we raise them to remain children as long as possible...Why would G-d create the human body to be capable of reproduction at puberty?...Historically, people married at a much younger age than we do now, some say that that was because the human life span was much shorter and that now that our lifespans are much greater, that it is not neccessary to marry so young...So, we, as a society, have dictated that the age that a human remains a child should also be extended...So, does that mean that the ancients, who lived up to near a millenium would have been considered children at 50, 90, 200?...I've met full grown adults that shouldn't be married because they act like children and then I've met children who's level of maturity puts adults to shame...Look at a famous example, Lorretta Lynn, married at 13, husband was 24, if I remember correctly, and she started bearing children at 14 and raised a family...So, whose to say at what age is too young to marry after puberty...
That may be why folks think it is too young, they consider them children and I'd say that this is because, as a society, we raise them to remain children as long as possible...Why would G-d create the human body to be capable of reproduction at puberty?...Historically, people married at a much younger age than we do now, some say that that was because the human life span was much shorter and that now that our lifespans are much greater, that it is not neccessary to marry so young...So, we, as a society, have dictated that the age that a human remains a child should also be extended...So, does that mean that the ancients, who lived up to near a millenium would have been considered children at 50, 90, 200?...I've met full grown adults that shouldn't be married because they act like children and then I've met children who's level of maturity puts adults to shame...Look at a famous example, Lorretta Lynn, married at 13, husband was 24, if I remember correctly, and she started bearing children at 14 and raised a family...So, whose to say at what age is too young to marry after puberty...
Whether a child is a child or an adult has less to do with puberty and more to do with mental development, at least in advanced modern day societies that is...
This is why there is even the question as to whether a child who commits a crime will be tried as a juvenile or an adult, having little to do with whether they are past puberty or not. That anyone be confused about this is like being confused about so much wrong-doing all over the world due to ignorance and backwardness. Adding to the confusion by comparing ancient history to our modern day doesn't help. Remember that not too long ago slavery was also okay, girls and women could be sold for chattel, women couldn't vote, contraception was not legal.
Also of course, there is a story behind too many of these marriages in the U.S. at such a young age, and not a good one. Perhaps also to be ignored?
"Based on my own experience working with forced-marriage victims across the United States, I am sure many of these children had to marry against their will. Forced marriage is a widespread but often ignored problem in the United States. A survey by the Tahirih Justice Center, an NGO that provides services to immigrant women and girls, identified as many as 3,000 known or suspected forced-marriage cases just between 2009 and 2011, many involving girls under age 18. Tactics used against the victims included threats of ostracism, beatings or death."
Yes, exactly what I mean, and why I wrote, "A child, 14 years old, is too young for marriage regardless of law, country, religion or sex."
I would disagree, not that I would marry a 14 year old or would recommend it, but I see nothing wrong with it when two people are going to be together. It's your opinion, not everyone shares the same opinion, certainly not in countries where the family arranges marriages and I see nothing wrong with that either as long as the female has a right to say yes or no. I don't think anyone should be forced to marry but 14 is not too young for marriage.
Whether a child is a child or an adult has less to do with puberty and more to do with mental development, at least in advanced modern day societies that is...
This is why there is even the question as to whether a child who commits a crime will be tried as a juvenile or an adult, having little to do with whether they are past puberty or not. That anyone be confused about this is like being confused about so much wrong-doing all over the world due to ignorance and backwardness. Adding to the confusion by comparing ancient history to our modern day doesn't help. Remember that not too long ago slavery was also okay, girls and women could be sold for chattel, women couldn't vote, contraception was not legal.
Also of course, there is a story behind too many of these marriages in the U.S. at such a young age, and not a good one. Perhaps also to be ignored?
"Based on my own experience working with forced-marriage victims across the United States, I am sure many of these children had to marry against their will. Forced marriage is a widespread but often ignored problem in the United States. A survey by the Tahirih Justice Center, an NGO that provides services to immigrant women and girls, identified as many as 3,000 known or suspected forced-marriage cases just between 2009 and 2011, many involving girls under age 18. Tactics used against the victims included threats of ostracism, beatings or death."
This question was from a religious point of view only. What Talmudic law was allowing this Chassidic sect to go forward with this marriage at such a young age for the woman?
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