Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Judaism
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 12-05-2012, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Denver Metro
107 posts, read 113,234 times
Reputation: 51

Advertisements

Could someone explain metzitzah b’peh? Would the circumcision of an adult male who converts include
metzitzah b’peh? How common is this practice and where did it originate?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-05-2012, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island
1,790 posts, read 1,863,856 times
Reputation: 1555
It's an antiquated ritual that has been obsolete, and contrary to Jewish law, for a very long time.
Its use today is primarily found in ultra-orthodox groups, and is not typical. It is very rare.

What it is: after the circumcision was performed, the mohel used his mouth to create suction in order to induce blood flow from the incision. It was believed that this would prevent infection from setting in.

Modern medicine has rendered it obsolete, and antibiotics are used today.

As an adult male convert to Judaism, what is required depends on whether or not you were circumcised as an infant.

If not, then a complete circumcision is required for a halachic conversion.

If you were circumcised, then a hatafat dam brit is performed. In this case, a symbolic drop of blood is taken from the penis. Speaking from experience, this procedure is relatively painless, and the anticipation of having it done was far more unpleasant than the deed itself.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-06-2012, 09:15 AM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
8,868 posts, read 12,553,938 times
Reputation: 2604
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snardley View Post
Could someone explain metzitzah b’peh? Would the circumcision of an adult male who converts include
metzitzah b’peh? How common is this practice and where did it originate?

Its only still done by the haredim. IIUC most modern orthodox poskim (legal authorities) not only do not require it, but recommend against it. It happens to be a big makloikes (yiddish for controversy, dispute) in NYC because there are a lot of haredim there, and its become a press and political issue.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-07-2012, 11:25 AM
 
4,729 posts, read 4,361,346 times
Reputation: 1578
Even in the hareidim and untra-orthodox communities it is rare. It is never done in the city I live in, which has a decent Orthodox population. However, I do see the the local Mohel do a version of it, but he uses a plastic pipe which he inserts around the child's freshly circusized penis, and he sucks on the other end of the pipe to create suction. I believe it's done both for the reason mentioned above, and to help "form" the wound into the correct shape. He's very quick about it and sheilds the "audience" from seeing this step, so very few take notice.

For an adult, the circumcision (if never previously done) is going to be in a sterile operating room, and no doctor in the world would allow a mohel to place his mouth near your "wound."

As for the hatafas dam bris, the only bad part of that process is not the pain (of which there is virtually none), but rather the seemingly embarrassing nature of dropping ones drawers in the presence of another person. Like a doctor, the mohel will ensure you he is a professional and does this all the time.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-08-2012, 01:59 AM
 
Location: North Texas
24,561 posts, read 40,263,571 times
Reputation: 28559
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snardley View Post
Could someone explain metzitzah b’peh? Would the circumcision of an adult male who converts include
metzitzah b’peh? How common is this practice and where did it originate?

It's so uncommon that none of the Jewish people I know, myself included, had ever heard of it until recently.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-13-2012, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Denver Metro
107 posts, read 113,234 times
Reputation: 51
Thanks for all the answers on this thread. I thought this was the case, but I wasn't sure.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Judaism
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:26 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top