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So if I understand what you have written, you didn't spend Pesach in Dubai, you spent it in Israel. So you weren't in an isolated place during the holiday.
In todays times one is only isolated by their means. For example when I was in the military, during Pesach I became a devout vegetarian and ate no bread. During YK, not eating is pretty easy with certain drugs given to us for operations to stave of sleep/hunger. Davening in general is/was pretty easy overall since I memorized all the pertinent sections when I was a yeshiva bocher. We don't live is shtetels anymore, so we need to adjust to our surroundings as things come up. On the other hand is my nephew who works in Abu Dhabi all year around does not have the means to jump out for the holidays. Thus he (and his wife) do everything in private. For the most part he's secular, but since he was raised eating kosher he currently adheres to halal dietary laws. In my case I've found it more of a problem in certain states of the US, rather than anywhere else on the planet.
I am not talking about long term employment in an isolated place but short-term situations that may cover a few to several months during which are Jewish holidays.
Once you're outside of Jewish community living, nearly all the Jews I've met on the road do YK and don't eat bread during Passover. The rest of the holidays aren't really dealt with. Past that they don't do much more.
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In todays times one is only isolated by their means. For example when I was in the military, during Pesach I became a devout vegetarian and ate no bread. During YK, not eating is pretty easy with certain drugs given to us for operations to stave of sleep/hunger. Davening in general is/was pretty easy overall since I memorized all the pertinent sections when I was a yeshiva bocher. We don't live is shtetels anymore, so we need to adjust to our surroundings as things come up. On the other hand is my nephew who works in Abu Dhabi all year around does not have the means to jump out for the holidays. Thus he (and his wife) do everything in private. For the most part he's secular, but since he was raised eating kosher he currently adheres to halal dietary laws. In my case I've found it more of a problem in certain states of the US, rather than anywhere else on the planet.
So where does he get matzo from for Passover or food that is kosher for Pesach since you say he keeps kosher?
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Once you're outside of Jewish community living, nearly all the Jews I've met on the road do YK and don't eat bread during Passover. The rest of the holidays aren't really dealt with. Past that they don't do much more.
Not eating bread during Passover is easy to do anywhere in the world if one is motivated. The question is would one be able to get a hold of matzo during Passover or would one just skip that completely?
So where does he get matzo from for Passover or food that is kosher for Pesach since you say he keeps kosher?
Not eating bread during Passover is easy to do anywhere in the world if one is motivated. The question is would one be able to get a hold of matzo during Passover or would one just skip that completely?
He can't. Its extremely rare (improbable) to find it in any Arab country. I've only found real matza once. It was in Jeddah in Saudi Arabia off season.
The closest thing I've found is Carr's which is available in the Dubai (health food store) Mall. Carr’s Crackers & Cookies
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He can't. Its extremely rare (improbable) to find it in any Arab country. I've only found real matza once. It was in Jeddah in Saudi Arabia off season.
The closest thing I've found is Carr's which is available in the Dubai (health food store) Mall. Carr’s Crackers & Cookies
I guess he can bring it with him from another location (if he goes on vacation) or perhaps someone can mail him some?!
If he were a Muslim living in Israel, it would not be an issue. But being a Jew living in an Arab country, east of Israel, isn't done. One wants to bring as little attention to themselves as possible. Too many people on this board take for granted the rights and freedoms we have in the US that simply do not exist in numerous countries outside of the US. They also don't know how much freedom we lost in the US in the days following 9/11.
FWIW as a side note on freedoms lost:
I was on one of the first day flights out of LaGuardia (NY) after 9/11. Upon finishing going through security at the gate and my belongings being returned to me, one of the agents noticed my keychain (That keychain contained a chai surrounded with mosiac on one side and a hebrew flying prayer on the back). The agent took one look at it and without notice I was escorted to the wall adjacent to the xray machine and electronically searched, patted down and questioned. My carry-on was searched. All because of keychain. The flight (in the US only) was extremely different than any other flight ever taken in the US. After takeoff, we were all advised that were to stay seated at all times. If we needed to go to the bathroom, we were told to press the call button so we could be escorted to and from. That day I knew what was coming even before TSA ever existed and since that day I carry nothing that has any hebrew on it.
Perhaps the difference in our approach is that I put my yiddishkite ahead of my job/income, if that is what is required al pi halacha.
but the question is should a rav try to find a way, or just say don't live there. If theres a way, its NOT required al pi halacha to not live there.
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Hashem controls how much i make anyways, and I do not believe I can "trick the system" by thinking that taking a higher paying/better job in a place where practicing my Torah observance is not possible will get me ahead in the long run.
Lets all please daven hard to hashem to increase the legal incomes of folks in Kiryas Joel, so they will not rely on welfare so much.
Its interesting that at least as regards income Hashem seems to favor Reform, Conservative, Modern O, and the more worldy haredim over the hasidim and the less worldy mitnagdish haredim, and that among the hasidim he seems to reward a few a very well, well not rewarding many others who seem to be just as frum. Though he also seems to reward a few secular Jews much more than most secular, Reform, and Conservative Jews.
Its almost like income was determined by a range of factors like education, effort, luck, and willingness to make the world a priority, rather than by miracles.
Lets all please daven hard to hashem to increase the legal incomes of folks in Kiryas Joel, so they will not rely on welfare so much.
I will if you will.
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Its interesting that at least as regards income Hashem seems to favor Reform, Conservative, Modern O, and the more worldy haredim over the hasidim and the less worldy mitnagdish haredim, and that among the hasidim he seems to reward a few a very well, well not rewarding many others who seem to be just as frum. Though he also seems to reward a few secular Jews much more than most secular, Reform, and Conservative Jews.
I've heard it said, that the jewish nashama is very bright, by its very nature. And for this reason, it's going to be successful at something. For the chasid, he is using his neshama to gain a better seat in Olam Haba. Worldly items would be nice too, but if there's not enough bandwidth, few chassdim would choose gashmius over ruchnius.
For the secular or non observant Jew, he is not focusing his precious nashama towards his connection with Hashem. But it's still a very powerful neshama otherwise. So it gravitates towards gashmius, and many times over, is successful in doing so. Not sure what these folks Olam Haba will look like (taking their reward in Olam Hazeh instead of Olam Haba), but hey, to each his own...
I was on one of the first day flights out of LaGuardia (NY) after 9/11. Upon finishing going through security at the gate and my belongings being returned to me, one of the agents noticed my keychain (That keychain contained a chai surrounded with mosiac on one side and a hebrew flying prayer on the back). The agent took one look at it and without notice I was escorted to the wall adjacent to the xray machine and electronically searched, patted down and questioned. My carry-on was searched. All because of keychain. The flight (in the US only) was extremely different than any other flight ever taken in the US. After takeoff, we were all advised that were to stay seated at all times. If we needed to go to the bathroom, we were told to press the call button so we could be escorted to and from. That day I knew what was coming even before TSA ever existed and since that day I carry nothing that has any hebrew on it.
Very smart.
I recently was in an airport in the South, went thru security and the TSA guy said to me as i walked into the scanner "hey, can you take off that little Jewish hat thing while we scan you?"
I did, but I was tempted to say "look, no horns" when I complied. I did not say that, as it might have been a chilul hashem.
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