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Old 02-17-2014, 11:18 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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First, can you explain the whole concept of modesty and how it is supposed to apply to Jewish women and men? Also, is there a difference of modesty in the orthodox movement?
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:54 AM
 
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Ok, so what are the requirements of modesty for men?
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:23 PM
 
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In case anyone is interested in a Torah view, yes, men are required to act and dress tznius as well. The rules vary from men to women, as obviously outside of gender bending environments, men and women vary.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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Ok, so what are the requirements of modesty for men?
Entire books are written on the subject. Are you seriously interested in learning? If so, please ask a more specific question, and we can start from there. Something like "I know women are required to cover their hair to be tznius. Are men required to cover their hair too?"
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Old 02-17-2014, 04:55 PM
 
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Sure. So according to pruzhany's diagram:

Women must have their head covered. I also understand men must have their heads covered.

Women must have their shirts covering their collarbones and past their elbows. Do men have any restrictions like this?

Women must have skirts (I take it pants are a no no?) past their knees. Can men wear shorts in public? Can men wear kilts?
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Lake Worth, FL
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Women must have skirts (I take it pants are a no no?) past their knees.
99% sure that kilts are a no-no for men and pants are a no-no for women due to the negative Mitzvot described in Deuteronomy 22:5.
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Old 02-17-2014, 06:21 PM
 
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99% sure that kilts are a no-no for men and pants are a no-no for women due to the negative Mitzvot described in Deuteronomy 22:5.
No and No. This is one of the reasons the Torah needs to be read in Hebrew with understanding of Hebrew, Aramaic and context. The context part comes from reading the Tanakh from cover to cover multiple times so one may learn the format and thus distinguish the multiple words in Hebrew that all seem to be one word in English but are not. Having the knowledge of Linguistic Anthropology is highly beneficial in getting intended meanings correctly understood.

So here are links to be read in order:
Deuteronomy 22 / Hebrew - English Bible / Mechon-Mamre

Does the Bible Say It's a Sin for Women to Wear Pants?

Additional reading for more context:
Trousers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 02-17-2014, 06:28 PM
 
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Enlighten me broseph, because I am interested in what Deut 22:5 means then. I'm not fluent in Hebrew to read the Torah in its intended way.
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