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Old 08-13-2015, 06:17 PM
 
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Check out "The 700 Club" on tv. Pat Robertson is one of the most famous/influential Christians in the world and he is highly PRO Israel and the Jewish people and so am I. The Jewish people are God's CHOSEN PEOPLE! This is from the Bible and we, as Christians, believe in Israel and will do anything(!!) to protect the HOLY LAND from the radical Islamic people who want to destroy the area from which JESUS came and saved mankind.

IMO I think that everyone should get along with each other over there and then there would not be the war there is constantly. We should learn to share the land like we do here in the USA. If you walk on the wrong land there....BOOM~! You walk on a neighbors lawn here, they are not going to kill you....well, maybe parts in Kentucky will. They shoot first and then ask questions in the hills of Kentucky
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Old 08-17-2015, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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we have learned a lot from reading your posts Hannibal and I am very glad that you are here for us to learn from, thank you
Your always so nice, thanks.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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The only places that have antisemitism are in areas where there are little to no Jews. These places also happen to be mostly vast open wasteland in the middle of farm town bible thumping areas. The bumpkins out there are always going to discriminate against anyone who's not a white Christian.

Being the Jewish kid from Cleveland (large Jewish population), my only encounter with antisemitism was when I was about 13 or 14.

My brother who at the time lived in San Diego was coming back home some time in the summer. My dad being the typical guy he is, decided to get to the airport an hour early. The normal thing we did was to park at a Sunoco station near the airport and wait until my brother's plane landed.

While we were waiting, I got thirsty. My dad gave me a few dollars, and I walked into the gas station to get a soda. I noticed that it was owned by an Arab guy and the workers were Arab as well. This didn't bother me at all.

I got a soda out of the fridge and proceeded to walk toward the counter. To my astonishment, the owner quickly told the workers "Go help this kid, he wants to buy a soda. Quickly!"

I was very pleased with how great they were serving me. All 3 workers were behind the counter helping me buy my soda. They were very talkative and friendly and laughed a lot. The soda costed $1.25, so I put two dollars on the counter. The owner said "You know what, I don't wanna break your dollar. Keep it, I'll cover the 25 cents." At this point I was overwhelmed at how well the service was.

As I grabbed my soda and thanked them, one of them asks me "Hey kid, by any chance do you happen to be Arabic?" To which I responded with a chuckle "No, but that's not the first time I've been asked that." (I kind of look Italian/Greek/Mediterranean, especially when I get tan). We all started laughing for a few seconds. Then one of the workers says "Well at least you're not Jewish!", to which all of them start laughing hysterically.

I was just flabbergasted at that point! I kinda stood there in horror and let out an awkward "Hehe" and then walked out. NEVER had I EVER expected anything like this!

Antisemitism exists, it just depends whom is doing it and where they are.

I live out there in the cotton fields, and what you say has been true for decades and decades until this last decade.

So many Christians are going back to Jewish roots that the steady flow is unimaginable. These people who are becoming a driving force in support of Israel have become so because they are going back to the feasts of Israel and they become very pro Jewish.


30 years ago you could pass through a thousand communities throughout Texas and none of them heard the word Sukkot or cared to hear it, that has changed in a big way.

Just like me, I never even heard of Sukkot for 40 years, and now it's the air I breath.
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Old 08-22-2015, 02:51 AM
 
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One thing that upsets me about the issue of fundamentalist Christian's pro-Israel stance is that it's self-serving. The "second coming" can only happen, in their eyes, with Israel intact. That's fine and dandy, but while they support the state of Israel, they still believe Jews who do not convert to Christianity are wrong and going to hell, no matter how much they refer to Jewish folks as "The chosen people." As someone who has Jewish ancestry through my father, therefore not "officially" part of the tribe, and being very familiar with the fundamentalist Christian way of thinking, it bothers me.
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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Don't kid yourselves that anti-semitism only lives in the vast heartlands or the backwoods boonies. I live only 55 miles from downtown DC and have experienced it, in fact fairly recently. I had a painter and handyman working inside my house who I have used on several projects previously. Granted, he had never been inside my house before. Now, my ketubah is hanging in my foyer; I have a mezuzah on the front door frame; and there is a Star of David paperweight on the hall table. So the painter started telling me about the mission work he has done, the 5 churches he helped build in Africa, and oh btw, what church do I attend? I merely said that I did not attend church. (I figured that it would be pretty well evident by the previously-posted). So the next day, he asked me again, and invited me to his church - I then replied that I went to the synagogue in the nearest city when my health permitted.

Now, before he had finished that job, he had given me a quote for painting the next room, which I accepted. However, when I called him to begin the work, he refued to answer the phone, even though I left several messages. He never even called back to bother to tell me he was "too busy" - just nothing. Coincidentally, another workman who was going to install gutters on a shed for me, also refused to take any calls from me to schedule- he's a member of the same congregation as the painter/handyman. Gee, I wonder why?
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Old 08-22-2015, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Well I'm not a religious guy myself, but I sure as hell know that the rednecks out in Alabama, Mississippi, etc are racist as can be. Not sure about Texas though.

East Texas is a lot like that, I mean, I know areas like that but even in those areas, things are changing. East Texas is as racist as they come, where that black guy was dragged behind a car not too many years ago. Full of pit bull owners, and meth houses, but where East Texas may not have had a single pro Jewish person in past decades, there are tens of thousand now, and the numbers are growing because of the feasts. I had no idea how racist my family was, uncles in the kkk and such, but my own family has made a big turn around.
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:13 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Don't kid yourselves that anti-semitism only lives in the vast heartlands or the backwoods boonies. I live only 55 miles from downtown DC and ...
Umm, At 55 miles if you're between the WV border and Fredericksburg you're pretty much in the boonies. It's sort of funny when I go West of DC, people are using derogatory Yiddish words as commonly as English words and don't even think there may be a Jew sitting nearby.

All we have to do is remember John Whitbeck's joke a couple of years back and he couldn't understand why his joke was offensive.
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Old 08-22-2015, 07:59 PM
 
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The most offensive part of Whitbeck's joke was that it wasn't funny.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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I sure as hell know that the rednecks out in Alabama, Mississippi, etc are racist as can be.
Based on your observations, how do you think their racism compares to the racism of the home-boys in East Saint Louis or South Chicago?
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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One thing that upsets me about the issue of fundamentalist Christian's pro-Israel stance is that it's self-serving. The "second coming" can only happen, in their eyes, with Israel intact. That's fine and dandy, but while they support the state of Israel, they still believe Jews who do not convert to Christianity are wrong and going to hell, no matter how much they refer to Jewish folks as "The chosen people." As someone who has Jewish ancestry through my father, therefore not "officially" part of the tribe, and being very familiar with the fundamentalist Christian way of thinking, it bothers me.
Christian fundamentalists don't just believe that of Jews and other non-Christians, they believe that of Christians who do believe as they do, especially Catholics. The KKK in its heyday (1920s-1960s) targeted blacks, Jews, and Catholics as well as Mexicans in the Southwest and immigrants where they were numerous. Anti-Semitism and anti-Catholicism, like racism against blacks, also was alive and well in many large metros in the Northeast and Great Lakes, although less common and certainly more subtle, more in the "they're nice enough, but you wouldn't want your daughter to marry one" vein.
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