Very silly - but sincere - question for jewish people (Christians, Americans)
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I take offense to the term "Native Americans." It implies that I am -not- native to this country. I'm third generation American. I'd say that makes me native-born, hm? My tribe might be Judah, but I'm still native, to America.
I'm not a Native Israeli..or a Native German...no, I'm native american. Because, I was born here, of parents who are also native to this country. By definition - I am native.
I also take issue to "the race of people formerly known as Black" calling themselves African-Americans. If they aren't FROM Africa, they're not African-anythings. Furthermore, there are caucasion people from Africa, who have moved to the USA, and reside here, legally, have citizenship. THEY are African-American. But if they said that to a black guy they'd probably get a whole sackful of grief.
Unless you're FROM Africa - you're not African-anything. People trying to seperate and isolate themselves from society by coming up with more confounded labels do nothing to encourage community.
I take offense to the term "Native Americans." It implies that I am -not- native to this country. I'm third generation American. I'd say that makes me native-born, hm? My tribe might be Judah, but I'm still native, to America.
I'm not a Native Israeli..or a Native German...no, I'm native american. Because, I was born here, of parents who are also native to this country. By definition - I am native.
I also take issue to "the race of people formerly known as Black" calling themselves African-Americans. If they aren't FROM Africa, they're not African-anythings. Furthermore, there are caucasion people from Africa, who have moved to the USA, and reside here, legally, have citizenship. THEY are African-American. But if they said that to a black guy they'd probably get a whole sackful of grief.
Unless you're FROM Africa - you're not African-anything. People trying to seperate and isolate themselves from society by coming up with more confounded labels do nothing to encourage community.
They picked African-American because some stupid people take offence when they are referred to as "blacks" or "black people"
Frankly, when I was in India, we used to go by the biological definition. We used to refer to them as "negro". Think I can't do that in the US, coz I'll get killed
I take offense to the term "Native Americans." It implies that I am -not- native to this country. I'm third generation American. I'd say that makes me native-born, hm? My tribe might be Judah, but I'm still native, to America.
I'm not a Native Israeli..or a Native German...no, I'm native american. Because, I was born here, of parents who are also native to this country. By definition - I am native.
I also take issue to "the race of people formerly known as Black" calling themselves African-Americans. If they aren't FROM Africa, they're not African-anythings. Furthermore, there are caucasion people from Africa, who have moved to the USA, and reside here, legally, have citizenship. THEY are African-American. But if they said that to a black guy they'd probably get a whole sackful of grief.
Unless you're FROM Africa - you're not African-anything. People trying to seperate and isolate themselves from society by coming up with more confounded labels do nothing to encourage community.
I already got in trouble once on this thread. Let me make this perfectly clear , the Native Americans were killed off in order for Europeans to move here and thrive. You may be a native in regards to being born here, but you are not a native in regards to having an NA mother tongue .You being here as far as bloodlines go is the result of killing off the original inhabitants. To say the least the way North America has been populated and trampled on is an imposition to the original inhabitants and the land. It is simply criminal. For any immigrant tribe to revitalize here in the Us is at the expense of the NA . NA culture is on life support.
I already got in trouble once on this thread. Let me make this perfectly clear , the Native Americans were killed off in order for Europeans to move here and thrive. You may be a native in regards to being born here, but you are not a native in regards to having an NA mother tongue .You being here as far as bloodlines go is the result of killing off the original inhabitants. To say the least the way North America has been populated and trampled on is an imposition to the original inhabitants and the land. It is simply criminal. For any immigrant tribe to revitalize here in the Us is at the expense of the NA . NA culture is on life support.
Killed off "in order for" Europeans to move here? That makes it sound like there was a third party responsible. It was the Europeans who dealt with the Native Americans--and they certainly didn't need help from anyone else.
Now, if I may ask, what has that got to do with the OP's question?
Killed off "in order for" Europeans to move here? That makes it sound like there was a third party responsible. It was the Europeans who dealt with the Native Americans--and they certainly didn't need help from anyone else.
Now, if I may ask, what has that got to do with the OP's question?
You got me , I got side tracked at Jews not being a race. Anyway I suppose one could look at charitable organizations within the Hebrew frey. Who do they look out for ? Are Jewish charities sect oriented ? How are the Ethiopians doing in Israel ?
You got me , I got side tracked at Jews not being a race. Anyway I suppose one could look at charitable organizations within the Hebrew frey. Who do they look out for ? Are Jewish charities sect oriented ? How are the Ethiopians doing in Israel ?
I/m sorry Jazzymom , I was out of line on that post back a bit . As for being all over the map there are many things to consider. The OP kind of invites all over the map .
I suppose one could look at charitable organizations within the Hebrew frey. Who do they look out for ? Are Jewish charities sect oriented ? How are the Ethiopians doing in Israel ?
Let's suppose for just a minute that you take that first sentence and substitute, well, just about any other word for "Hebrew." Charitable organizations within the Christian/Islamic/black/Hispanic/gay/feminist...pick any word you like. Or come up with one of your own!
My question is: can anyone be the least bit surprised if a Jewish charity focuses on Jewish causes and concerns? I fail to see how this whole thing becomes a debate. (Of course, I could be looking at it differently from other people, owing to the fact that I'm Jewish).
Let's suppose for just a minute that you take that first sentence and substitute, well, just about any other word for "Hebrew." Charitable organizations within the Christian/Islamic/black/Hispanic/gay/feminist...pick any word you like. Or come up with one of your own!
My question is: can anyone be the least bit surprised if a Jewish charity focuses on Jewish causes and concerns? I fail to see how this whole thing becomes a debate. (Of course, I could be looking at it differently from other people, owing to the fact that I'm Jewish).
LOL Shalom Aleichem Fred. Seeing your a Jew ,then you should know a think or two about the state of da Hebrews as a collective. A bud named Moshe told me once that he hated many Israels and would kill them if he could and get away.He loathed modern religion as a remnant of what Hitler wiped out . I'm pretty sure I said in my first post on this thread it ain't no diff within any Race/Tongue .Then again the history past present and future of the Hebrews is set as an example for the world to follow. That would include those who make up the foundation and perpetuation of Christianity as well. Judah as a collective holds the scepter of rule, be it in err or in righteousness.
So how far back is the blame game going, hm? My family on both sides is Jewish, and the heritage goes all the way back to the original Tribes. So sure, a few of our generational ancestors were of European descent. But prior to that, nope. When all them thar Europeans were invading North America, MY ancestors were in Israel. So no, I won't be blaming my European ancestry on the pillage of North America. My European ancestry had nothing to do with it. My Germanic ancestry doesn't go back that far. And my Russian ancestry only goes back to the last couple of Czars.
I AM a native American. My mother IS a native American. Her mother WAS a native American, and her father WAS an immigrant, before the turn of the 20th century.
Smoke on that Peace Pipe, Dakota.
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