How "southern" is Kansas City? (St. Louis, Farmington: 2013, home)

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by 2000_Watts

So, in your opinion, what similarities do you notice between KC & places like Birmingham, Memphis, Atlanta, or Jackson...?

I can name far more between KC & Milwaukee than I can between KC and any of the other places I mentioned, which are in the actual south.

I don't see a lot of similarities between KC and Milwaukee. I think St. Louis would be a lot better comparison to Milwaukee to use.

[SPonteKC]

Originally Posted by MOforthewin

I don't see a lot of similarities between KC and Milwaukee. I think St. Louis would be a lot better comparison to Milwaukee to use.

I can think of lots of similarities between all 3 (probably as many between Milwaukee and KC as between Milwaukee and StL, or StL and KC for that matter). Chief among these is that they are all medium sized midwestern cities. That doesn’t mean they are identical, or that any of them is more midwestern than any of the others.

Everything in the Midwest is midwestern. What’s in the Midwest defines what it is, how it is and what its like. Not vice versa.

The apples aren’t “more pie” than the crust, you goofballs.

[sub]

Not very southern, but has influences. So does Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit, and well, pretty much every rust belt town. Especially St. Louis.
Nothing unique.
KC is definitely more midwestern than anything.

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by sub

Not very southern, but has influences. So does Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit, and well, pretty much every rust belt town. Especially St. Louis.
Nothing unique.
KC is definitely more midwestern than anything.

KC has more southern influences than Milwaukee and Chicago lol. The transition zone starts just below KC.

[sub]

Originally Posted by MOforthewin

KC has more southern influences than Milwaukee and Chicago lol. The transition zone starts just below KC.

Yes I know. I was thinking of the migration north that happened with my parent's generation when I wrote that, where seemingly half of them left the south for work in factories up north.

Kansas City just doesn't seem all that different than its midwestern peers, especially among lower midwest towns. Yet, it seems to be described as being southern more than the rest of them.

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by sub

Yes I know. I was thinking of the migration north that happened with my parent's generation when I wrote that, where seemingly half of them left the south for work in factories up north.

Kansas City just doesn't seem all that different than its midwestern peers, especially among lower midwest towns. Yet, it seems to be described as being southern more than the rest of them.

Missouri as a whole there is a lot of debate about how southern the state is.

You don't see this with any other midwestern state. Why? One thing it was a slave state, second it was admitted by Confederate Congress, third, a chunk of the state is located in the south, and religion wise MO has a lot of southern Baptist. IL and IN don't have a decent chunk of the state in the south, were not slave states and don't have a chunk of the southern dialect region covering it like MO does.

[MOforthewin]

Here is an unrelated news story from Holden MO just now from the fair. Notice the booth with Confederate battle flags in the background. It's a story about an exhibit with Claire McCaskill and shooting a toy gun at it, but anyway I'm just pointing out the booth in the background.

This is an area just south of KC I was talking about is part of that transition zone and Little Dixie and how you see stuff like this in this part of the state which has some southern influences still.

You don't see this that much in true midwestern states like WI, Indiana, Illinois or Kansas. Unless you're in far southern IN and IL you might see the flag from time to time since they're in the transition zone but even in the middle of MO and north of the MO river you still see it.

I believe it's one of the local Sons of Confederate Veterans orgs.

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news...fair-draws-ire

[thriftylefty]

I wonder how much you can tell by the selection of radio stations in the area? I'm guessing country and christian probably edges out all other stations.

[Weaubleau]

Originally Posted by thriftylefty

I wonder how much you can tell by the selection of radio stations in the area? I'm guessing country and christian probably edges out all other stations.

Maybe it's just because I don't know where they are on the dial, but I don't get the impression the country and christian stations make up the majority of stations in KC. Maybe if you include the outlying area, but I have 90.9, 91.5, 93.3, 94.9, 96.5. 98.9, 99.7, 101.1, 105.1 and 105.5 on my car radio pre sets and none of them are country or christian.

[SPonteKC]

Originally Posted by thriftylefty

I wonder how much you can tell by the selection of radio stations in the area? I'm guessing country and christian probably edges out all other stations.

You’d be wrong. The top station is an oldies station, then a “classic rock” station. The rock and pop stations have more listeners than all the country stations combined. In fact the top country station only edges out the hip-hop and R&B station by 0.1 market share, which is about 30K listeners in our market. There’s not a Christian radio station in the top 20 in the market.

Not sure that “do they listen to country music?” is the best litmus test if the theory is the heart of the Midwest is Pecatonica, IL.