What is the difference between Kansas City KS and MO? I'm totally clueless (Jackson: crime, house)

[thriftylefty]

Kansas City Kansas is still part rural. in some parts of Wyandotte Co. People own horses, Cows, and chickens less than 15 miles from Down town KCK.
I think the issue of liquor by the drink did more than anything to keep the two cities markedly different

[boredom-junkie]

Originally Posted by skrizzle

I live in Kansas City, MO... in Clay county, and KCMO also has parts of Platte...

which are both well off with school districts and wealthy areas.

And I don't think I'd EVER consider Johnson County more upscale then Jackson..... Jackson may have it's bad areas, but Johnson County has nothing even close to the level of the areas around the Plaza, North Hyde Park, and Ward Parkway....

Johnson County just has your typical suburbs, of which the KCMO side has plenty of the same...

It doesn't really matter if you THINK Johnson County isn't more upscale than Jackson; it already shows in the statistics. Johnson County has the highest median household and per-capita incomes in Kansas- around 2010 they were $73,733 and $37,882 respectfully. 3 of the cities in Johnson County made it onto Money Magazine's top cities to live in (Overland Park is almost always in the top 10).

In the same year, the median household income for Jackson County was $46,252 and the per-capita income was $25,213. Jackson may have it's touristy areas like the Plaza and Ward Parkway, but as a whole it's on a lower scale than JoCo. That part's not a matter of opinion, it's right in the facts. It's like saying you don't believe KS is to the left of MO when it's right there on the map.

[kcmo]

Umm, Jackson County is urban AND suburban. Johnson County is suburban. You can't compare the two with raw statistics alone.

A better comparison might be to compare JoCo/WyCo with Jackson

or JoCo/WyCo with Jackson/Platte/Clay

or JoCo with only lee's summit, northland etc (which I'm sure JoCo would rank slighly higher, but not substantially).

Mission Hills is the only city in KS that ranks very high on national affluent lists and that's only because it's so small. When you zero in on such a small wealthy single family homes only area your per household incomes skyrocket. If you took the same area on the MO side of state line near Mission Hills, the numbers would be similar. It's easy for a suburb to have excellent stats when they don't even have section 8 apartments etc to even things out. Even Lee's Summit has some very affluent zip codes that rank much lower because of the huge john knox retirement village and the very low incomes per resident there. You have to look at more than stats.

There are zillions of places like Leawood and Overland Park across the country. Larger, white collar upper middle class burbs. Nothing special there.

[RjRobb2]

Originally Posted by skrizzle

I think the Casino is going in by the speedway? May be wrong..

kansascity.com has some renditions, it looks pretty bland, but im sure it will do fine... where there are casinos there are always people willing to spend..

It opened on Saturday actually. I hear it's nice.

[kcmo]

kck in the foreground with kcmo in the distance

[boredom-junkie]

Originally Posted by kcmo

Umm, Jackson County is urban AND suburban. Johnson County is suburban. You can't compare the two with raw statistics alone.

A better comparison might be to compare JoCo/WyCo with Jackson

or JoCo/WyCo with Jackson/Platte/Clay

or JoCo with only lee's summit, northland etc (which I'm sure JoCo would rank slighly higher, but not substantially).

Mission Hills is the only city in KS that ranks very high on national affluent lists and that's only because it's so small. When you zero in on such a small wealthy single family homes only area your per household incomes skyrocket. If you took the same area on the MO side of state line near Mission Hills, the numbers would be similar. It's easy for a suburb to have excellent stats when they don't even have section 8 apartments etc to even things out. Even Lee's Summit has some very affluent zip codes that rank much lower because of the huge john knox retirement village and the very low incomes per resident there. You have to look at more than stats.

There are zillions of places like Leawood and Overland Park across the country. Larger, white collar upper middle class burbs. Nothing special there.

There is section 8 housing available in JoCo. And the differences aren't just in the housing, either. When you compare the crime rates, they are significantly lower than Jackson County. Even with JoCo/WyCo combined (a total population of 688,380 from 01-08, Jackson's pop was 668,417 during the same years), Jackson's crime is at least 30% greater. Statistics are not the only way to determine a city's safety or quality of living, but they sure as hell help.

There are places like Lee Summit and Grandview all over the US, too. There's nothing spectacular about any of these cities. My point isn't that Overland Park is "special." My point is that it- along with the rest of JoCo- has a better quality of living compared to Jackson County, despite what skrizzle said.

[aragx6]

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[kcmo]

Originally Posted by boredom-junkie

My point is that it- along with the rest of JoCo- has a better quality of living compared to Jackson County, despite what skrizzle said.

Depends on what you want. Many people prefer eastern jackson county, many people prefer joco.

I know a lot of people that live in east jax and none of them would rather be in JoCo even though many of them commute there everyday. And trust me, they could afford JoCo.

They like the quality of life of eastern jax. They like the lakes, the topography, the schools etc. Just like people that like JoCo have reasons for liking it there.

[SPonteKC]

Originally Posted by kcmo

Depends on what you want. Many people prefer eastern jackson county, many people prefer joco.

I know a lot of people that live in east jax and none of them would rather be in JoCo even though many of them commute there everyday. And trust me, they could afford JoCo.

They like the quality of life of eastern jax. They like the lakes, the topography, the schools etc. Just like people that like JoCo have reasons for liking it there.

And then there are a whole host of people, myself among them, who think urban KCMO offers far and away the best "quality of life" in the metro. Like it or not, 90% of what makes this city worth living in is it's urban core. I don't have a problem with Missouri-side or Kansas-side suburbanites, but without the city proper the quality of life in either of those places takes a precipitously steep nose dive.

[aragx6]

Originally Posted by s.davis

and then there are a whole host of people, myself among them, who think urban kcmo offers far and away the best "quality of life" in the metro. like it or not, 90% of what makes this city worth living in is it's urban core. I don't have a problem with missouri-side or kansas city suburbanites, but without the city proper the quality of life in either of those places takes a precipitously steep nose dive.

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