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Old 07-10-2012, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Wooster, Ohio
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I was there 6/21-25/2012.

Hays may be the easiest place in Kansas to reach from where I live. Akron-Canton Airport flies direct to Denver, and Denver flies direct to Hays.

I visited:
Limestone Acres Allotment
Hays Water & Sewage Plants
Hays Public Library
Ellis County Museum
Sternberg Museum
Fort Hays
Convention & Visitors Center
Walmart
Daniel G Rupp Park (located conveniently behind Days Inn)

Some of the things I liked:
Flat land
Fewer trees
Lower humidity
Straight roads
Low crime rate
Absolutely no culture shock

I want to visit Pittsburg, Kansas, and maybe Emporia. However, future visits will be in October, when the weather is milder.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Burlington, Colorado
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Some of the things I liked:
Flat land
Fewer trees
Lower humidity
Straight roads
Low crime rate
Absolutely no culture shock

I want to visit Pittsburg, Kansas, and maybe Emporia. However, future visits will be in October, when the weather is milder.
I love western Kansas, so I know there are others out there that do too... but the fact that most people don't combined with the sewer treatment part, I'm guessing you are being sarcastic... (if not... do you have a occupational interest in such things??)

However, lets assume you are sincere... western KS can use the tourism $ so I'm glad you made the trip and enjoyed it.

Its kind of funny though, rather you are serious, or trying to knock on Kansas... that all the same things you listed as likes (except lower humidity) can be found much closer to home in NW Ohio... Defiance County for example.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Wooster, Ohio
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I am being serious, and I do have an occupational interest in the water & sewage treatment business.

I am looking for a place to retire to that has a population of about 20,000-30,000, and a public university with bachelor's and master's programs. However, I do not want to live in a city where the university is so large that the university is the city. Outside of Kansas, these conditions are hard to find. Kansas has 3 cities (Hays, Pittsburg, & Emporia) that qualify.

Cheryl Unruh, in her book Flyover People, discusses the attraction of flat land and straight roads. In this part of Ohio, flat land generally means a flood plain.

I am also looking for less snow. Hays, at 18"-20"of snow a year, is the most I am willing to tolerate. Less snow is always better. Warmer and milder climates tend to have problems with crime and high cost of living, which is another reason I am looking into Kansas.
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Old 07-22-2012, 12:06 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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Have you ruled out Manhattan?
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Wooster, Ohio
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chele123:

Thanks for the suggestion. I do want to explore other areas in Kansas.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:10 PM
 
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We went to Hays for a family vacation several years ago and it was one of our best! The Sternberg Museum and Fort Hays especially. But, it sounds like you missed the drive out to Quinter to see Castle Rock and Monument Rocks. Maybe next time?
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:58 AM
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You really have to go to a big city if you want to find a place where the University doesn't dominate the local economy. Cities like Pittsburg and Emporia are small towns that may not be growing as fast as the college is. October is a good time to visit small college towns with; home coming, parades, farmers markets and FOOTBALL. Pittsburg doesn't have anything to do but eat chicken and visit Big Brutus.

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Old 07-26-2012, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Wooster, Ohio
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There are definitely more places in the Hays area that I would like to see. The Cathedral of the Plains in Victoria, Walter Chrysler's home in Ellis, and The Garden of Eden in Lucas, for example. I would also like to check out one of the Methodist churches (I am a Methodist). Castle Rock and Monument Rocks also sound interesting. I want to return some October, when the weather is more favorable for outside activities.

As far as the University dominating the economy, that is not a factor, as I will be retired by then. I just do not want to live in a town that is mostly college students.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:10 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I can't say I blame you! Manhattan probably wouldn't be a good choice. The whole town is crazy about their WildCats! It is a pretty town though. It's growing quite a bit - which I don't see as an assett, but that's just a matter of opinion.

Hays is a nice town, and I think it's in an good location.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Wooster, Ohio
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I consider slow growth to be optimum. Fast growth causes traffic congestion as the people overwhelm the transportation grid. A shrinking city, on the other hand, tends to be in decline.

Manhattan and Lawrence may actually not be all that bad. I won't know unless I visit them. My bias against large college towns comes in part from being sent to Ann Arbor, Michigan for my first job.
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