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Old 09-22-2015, 06:13 PM
 
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Mainly because they leave for other states. "The state experienced a net loss of 10,197 people because of outward migration from 2010 through July 1, 2013." Out-migration does not impact the unemployment rate but does result in creative destruction of the labor force. The issue is apparent in other states as well.
The out-migration numbers from 2014 onward should be much more telling, however. The static to decline in the total labor force in the state also aligns fairly well with that as well.

Census: More people moving out of Kansas than moving in | The Wichita Eagle
Yes, this has been going on for a while and is a national rural-state phenomenon.

So you bring this up after I show the state doing well in unemployment but not before when people are using the change in the rate as proof of the state going to hell in a handbasket?
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Old 09-22-2015, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Tippecanoe County, Indiana
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:05 PM
 
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What you just did to the y-axis scale there is a mental felony in my job circles lmao.

Tell you what, change the scale to 0-2 million and repost mmmmmkay?
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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OMG...my 16 year old just walked by and asked about the graph I was looking at.

I asked him, "spot what is wrong with this graph" as I got up to go to the bathroom.

I'd not gotten out of the chair when he started laughing at the scale on your graph.

And I quote, "Wow, look at the axis......"

Seriously, when an intelligent 16yo from the KS public school system can spot the bias in your graph within 3 seconds, maybe you should consider taking a step back?
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Tippecanoe County, Indiana
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What you just did to the y-axis scale there is a mental felony in my job circles lmao.

Tell you what, change the scale to 0-2 million and repost mmmmmkay?
Re-posted, snipped, saved as PNG, and pasted from my photobucket in table format. The trends in employment over the recent six month period carry more weight.

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Old 09-22-2015, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Tippecanoe County, Indiana
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What you just did to the y-axis scale there is a mental felony in my job circles lmao.

Tell you what, change the scale to 0-2 million and repost mmmmmkay?
Agreed, terrible table, I am actually deleting it as it is very poor.
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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I don't use graphs or tables. I use empty houses and empty businesses to do my analysis.
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Tippecanoe County, Indiana
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In terms of total employment per August 2015, that is a seven figure number, so with math, rounded, 1,396,400. Total current state population, 2.904 million.
The smoothed out annualized percentage change in job growth is going in the wrong direction in a hurry compared to most of the rest of the US. The other states that all have weak growth within the past year are all large energy producing states, Kansas is not among them.

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Old 09-22-2015, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Tippecanoe County, Indiana
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Yes, this has been going on for a while and is a national rural-state phenomenon.

So you bring this up after I show the state doing well in unemployment but not before when people are using the change in the rate as proof of the state going to hell in a handbasket?
Rural states like Nebraska, Iowa, Vermont, New Hampshire, South Dakota, etc are typically low growth places for the most part, therefore they might have "full employment" but have little in the way of strong job growth and significant levels of in-migration. A few exceptions exist in those states regarding its largest cities like Des Moines and Omaha, but those tend to be regional in-migration draws.
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Old 09-22-2015, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Lol the reason the KS side of the forum is full of threads like this is because if you pulled this crap in the other forums you'd get your threads deleted and infractions levied.
You honestly think this don't you? I tell it like it is. The KS economy is just not good, the state has ONE county that anybody even cares about and it's totally subsidized by the rest of the state. Few want to move there, companies from outside the KC area won't even give the place a second thought no matter how many incentives the state offers. Most of the cities and towns there outside of Johnson County and the two college towns are a mess. Urban areas like Wichita, Topeka and KCK are all some of the worst cities compared to their peers in other states. Small towns from Pittsburg to Dodge City have high crime, high poverty and little to look forward to. The state has one of the worst governors ever which has made the state a national laughing stock. High taxes with almost nothing to show for it (little recreation or public park land, no transit, terribly decaying urban and rural areas). The one thing the state likes to brag about (JoCo public schools) are have been going through some deep funding cuts which will eventually effect the schools rankings. The other thing (JoCo being the job engine of the state) is not looking too great lately.

But they have somewhat low unemployment rate!

There is nothing wrong with this post either. If I were to post a similar thread in Maryland or Virginia, it would not be deleted. The post would not be reported to the mods and if it were, they wouldn't care because I'm not saying anything that would warrant infractions or deletions of threads.

Face it. You don't like my posts because you don't want to hear this stuff. I get that. But it doesn't mean I'm a troll posting nonsense just because you and a few die hard Kansans don't want to read it.

Nothing has changed since I left KC. Kansas is still a thorn in the side of KCMO freeloading, poaching and taking advantage to KCMO, while having zero interest in doing anything that benefits the region as a whole.
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