Why Kentucky is not growing as fast as North Carolina or Tennesse (Louisville: crime, statistics)

[PemB]

Originally Posted by UB50

California is a union state and it hasn't hurt them.

"Right to work" usually means the employees get screwed. It's not that great to work in a "right to work" state.

California employers are leaving the state in droves due to the taxes and moronic rules being forced down their throats. Just check out where most of the new companies in NV used to call home.

It may not be "great" to work in a "right to work" state, but that is where the companies are moving the jobs to. Companies are way more mobile than they were in the past. If a better offer from another state comes their way, they can easily pull up stakes and move. In the old days, it was almost impossible to move a company because of the large capital investment in property and buildings, but today, most companies don't really own their property and buildings. That is usually owned by a REIT, so it makes no difference if the property is in use or vacant.

In todays competitive environment, state governments have to be more vigilant because their survival depends upon the jobs machines that they can attract to their state. Like it or not, "Right to Work" is part of that equation. Residents need to pay more attention to what happens in their statehouse, and less to Washington because Washington doesn't know how to create jobs, they are only good at exporting jobs!

Just my .02 worth.

Pat

[usernameLOL]

Being RTW sure didn't help Louisiana at all. So beware!!!

[JMT]

Originally Posted by censusdata

Tenn - has low taxes and alot of larger cities

NC - has great name recognition and accessibility to the East Coast, also alot of cities

KY - has comparatively higher taxes, and a government has many near misses of attracting new companies (ei Hyundai to E-town and Pharmaceuticals to Louisville)

In 1930 Kentucky had a larger population than Tennessee. As recently as 1960 the two states had very similar populations although Tennessee's was slightly larger.

After 1960, Kentucky built a superhighway network that relied largely on toll roads. Tennessee's highway network has always been free. That, coupled with Tennessee's lower taxes and its right-to-work laws probably made Tennessee much more attractive to businesses and industry.

[censusdata]

But a lot of it does have to do with fewer significant cities. Even a slow growing small metro area like Chattanooga will add 50,000 people per census (or more) to Tennessee's population.

Kentucky only has 3 real urban areas - and they are booming. But we also have a lot of population loss from the Eastern and Western thirds of the state

Here is a crude map I made (with paint brush ) that shows population growth/ loss patterns in KY

[herrery]

Are there any nurse practitioners in this state? I know you are out there. I'm thinking of moving from Washington state and am wondering what is it like to practice our profession. I specialize in family practice. I'm looking for a community where I can dig some roots. I love the outdoors and am an artist on the side. Any thoughts?

[censusdata]

This might help Kentucky Coalition of Nurse Practioners and Nurse Midwives

What type of outdoor activities do you like?

Eastern Kentucky has lots of hiking and white water rafting, Louisville has 30 miles of bike trails, with 80 more miles coming in the next couple of years. There are lots of lakes throughout the state if you like boating.

Kentucky has several of the largest art festivals in the US, including Louisville's St James Court Art Show, and Berea has a huge arts and crafts festival. Louisville has several artist communities.

Home
St. James Court Art Show
Glassworks

[JMT]

Originally Posted by censusdata

Kentucky only has 3 real urban areas - and they are booming.

Cool map. Seriously, I like it.

However, Louisville is hardly "booming." According to the US Census, The Louisville MSA's growth rate of 5.1 percent between 2000-2006 was slower than the national growth rate. It added 59,807 people during those 7 years. Between 2005-2006 Louisville's MSA grew by 1.0 percent. Lexington's MSA grew at a respectable 6.9 percent, or 28,358 between 2000-2006 and 1.6 percent between 2005-2006.

By contrast, the Memphis MSA grew by 5.8 percent, or 69,510, but that was mostly in its Mississippi suburbs, not Tennessee. Between 2005-2006 it grew by 1.4 percent.

Chattanooga grew by only 4.2 percent, or 20,191, which was considerably slower than the national average. Between 2005-2006 Chattanooga's MSA grew by 1.0 percent.

Nashville's MSA added 143,308 people (10.9 percent), Knoxville's MSA added 51,304 (8.3 percent). Between 2005-2006 Nashville's MSA grew by 2.4 percent, and Knoxville's grew by 1.8 percent.

So only 2 of Tennessee's 4 large cities grew at rates faster than Louisville or Lexington.

But for some really "booming" metro areas in the South, using Census estimates from 2000-2006:

Atlanta grew by 21 percent, or 890,211.
Charlotte grew by 19 percent, or 252,613.
Raleigh grew by 24.8 percent, or 197,526.

Population estimates as of July 1, 2006:
Lexington MSA: 436,684
Louisville MSA: 1,222,216

Interesting that in 7 years Atlanta added nearly double Lexington's entire MSA to its metropolitan area.

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by JMT

Cool map. Seriously, I like it.

However, Louisville is hardly "booming." According to the US Census, The Louisville MSA's growth rate of 5.1 percent between 2000-2006 was slower than the national growth rate. It added 59,807 people during those 7 years. Between 2005-2006 Louisville's MSA grew by 1.0 percent. Lexington's MSA grew at a respectable 6.9 percent, or 28,358 between 2000-2006 and 1.6 percent between 2005-2006.

By contrast, the Memphis MSA grew by 5.8 percent, or 69,510, but that was mostly in its Mississippi suburbs, not Tennessee. Between 2005-2006 it grew by 1.4 percent.

Chattanooga grew by only 4.2 percent, or 20,191, which was considerably slower than the national average. Between 2005-2006 Chattanooga's MSA grew by 1.0 percent.

Nashville's MSA added 143,308 people (10.9 percent), Knoxville's MSA added 51,304 (8.3 percent). Between 2005-2006 Nashville's MSA grew by 2.4 percent, and Knoxville's grew by 1.8 percent.

So only 2 of Tennessee's 4 large cities grew at rates faster than Louisville or Lexington.

But for some really "booming" metro areas in the South, using Census estimates from 2000-2006:

Atlanta grew by 21 percent, or 890,211.
Charlotte grew by 19 percent, or 252,613.
Raleigh grew by 24.8 percent, or 197,526.

Population estimates as of July 1, 2006:
Lexington MSA: 436,684
Louisville MSA: 1,222,216

Interesting that in 7 years Atlanta added nearly double Lexington's entire MSA to its metropolitan area.

What you have failed to understand is that massive population growth is not the only way you can boom. Besides, those are census ESTIMATES. I will take the kind of development Louisville is seeing anyday over the massive sprawl you are seeing in the southern metros. This sprawl will lad to massive decay in inner ring suburbs in places like Raleigh or Nashville in 20 years.

[censusdata]

Actually, Louisville and Lexington both grew 1.2% btw 05 and 06. The Kentucky side (all that I care about) is growing much faster than that

Louisville's MSA is growing at its fastest rate since the 1960s.

Growth by decade:
00s on pace for 10%
90s 9%
80s 5%
70s 4%
60s 16%

MSA growth since 2000
Louisville 60,241
Lexington 28,358

Louisville-Jefferson County, KY-IN Metropolitan Statistical Area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[JMT]

Originally Posted by censusdata

Actually, Louisville and Lexington both grew 1.2% btw 05 and 06.

Components of Population Change for Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas: April 1, 2000 to July 1, 2006 (http://www.census.gov/population/www/estimates/CBSA-est2006-comp-chg.html - broken link)

According to the Census, between 2005-2006:

Lexington's MSA grew by 1.6 percent (7,005, of which 4,035 was net in-migration).

Louisville's MSA grew by 1.0 percent, (12,034, of which 6,630 was net in-migration).

Chattanooga's MSA grew by 1.0 percent (4,946, of which 3,843 was net in-migration).

Knoxville's MSA grew by 1.8 percent (11,479, of which 9,678 was net in-migration).

Memphis's MSA grew by 1.4 percent (18,073, of which 9,338 was net in-migration).

Nashville's MSA grew by 2.4 percent (33,973, of which 24,725 was net in-migration).

So I guess the OP was correct, many more people are moving to Tennessee's metro areas. According to the Census, which does have a much more sophisticated system of figuring these things out, nearly four times as many people moved to Nashville than Louisville, and about 50% more moved to both Knoxville and Nashville than Louisville.

Also, about half of Louisville's and Memphis's growth comes from natural increase. Interestingly, almost all of Chattanooga's growth, on the other hand, comes from people moving in.