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That depends on what figures you use. If you use the CSA of each city then Louisville is bigger than Lexington by around 700,000 people and smaller than Cincinnati by around the same number. As far as urbanity goes, I geuss we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see it. What is on your radar then if half of the state isn't? Lexington can't be on the radar since its not even in "the same league", right? I never mentioned Owensboro because I know its nothing special and I don't pretend like its the center of the universe. I wish you cared about us.
This is what pains me about people like you. I don't like to generalize, but I don't know how else to put it.
First, let me say that I love the state of Kentucky and it's history. I am 'one of those' UK fans. I also attended WKU, UK and UofL. I am from Louisville.
Yet, this attitude of hating Louisville in rural Kentucky is one thing holding this state back. Let me make it clear that I am not talking to all people in rural Kentucky, but that type of person. Being a Louisville native, and others will likely empathize, nothing seems more ignorant than hating the state's biggest city. To me, it has shades of jealousy, so you hate it. That's my honest analysis.
While the urban / rural divide exists nationally, it's really bad in Kentucky. There are many in this state who want to prevent growth in Louisville, and many times there are political reasons for that. Yet they are the first to benefit from the city's tax revenue.
So why hate? The growth of Louisville is in the best interest of all Kentuckians economically. The threat is to the old money politicians who fear competition. A great example is David Williams on the issue of gambling -- when he won't live anywhere close to a casino with it legalized.
Lexington is a good town. I had many good years there. I had them in Bowling Green too. I have friends from the most extreme areas of Appalachia and the most redneck areas of Paducah. However, I don't go around hating the rest of the state because I am not from there.
It all comes down to a matter of preference and how you want to live, but for the benefit of the state, more unity would do wonders. It's not about size of cities or who is better...It's about realizing that we can all push this state and everyone can benefit.
And by the way, Louisville does have a blend of northern culture, southern culture and midwestern culture. People need to realize that this 'culture' thing is a form of branding in many ways as well. Louisville is not any of those culture per se, but a blend of many, and that's what makes it unique.
If you look at city allegiances, you can absolutely see many northern connections. Whether it be Jewish Hospital, the Big East, The Triple Crown (located in Louisville, Baltimore, and New York), a more liberal culture or it's roots in manufacturing and trade on the Ohio. Now, is Louisville just like Cincinnati? lol, as if Cincinnati is something to strive for. Cincinnati hardly a northern city in the first place...it's barely above Louisville. And really, I'd say rural southern Indiana is more 'southern' than parts of Kentucky. Of my closest friends from Louisville, the majority of their famillies have roots in New York or New Jersey....and their last names end in i. I have always identified more with the north than the southerners in terms of culture, and I'm not alone there....but the thing about Louisville, a lot of people will also disagree...cough...and we know why.
Ok, I was so motivated to see for myself the general area I went on a short trip there to Lexington. I saw a moderate city, with surrounding areas that seemed still very much"down home". I am positive I did not get around to as many great places the area has to offer, but I did keep my eyes open to the general vibe and the social vibe.
I found the surrounding areas I passed through like Nicholsville and Georgetown and this Scott county to be- average on any scale. Georgetown seemed plain a bit countrified and totally small town. Again average.
While driving through other places, I noticed some run down areas clearly a much poorer section. I really didn't expect much else. Everyplace in America has to have an area for those who cannot afford the higher cost of living to reside. This is only fair and decent. So I wasn't so surprised. I just would know when coming in to live, where not to land a place to rent/buy.
I can't say I have been impressed with my visit, in fairness I was not able to drive the entire county or the whole of Lexington to check out all it has to offer. I did see in Lexington that is, a few Indian and African restaurants which made me feel THRILLED because I am an ethnic foody at heart.
Traffic, I did get a "taste" of that. It was slight but I noticed- unnecessary.
I noticed a lot of duplexes and apartment complexes. I did see an excessive amount of strip malls. Strip malls- cant live with them, cannot live without them. If the towns/cities didn't have them we would complain so we just live with them. I personally find them annoying but when I need a gift for someone poof it will be important. All in all, I liked Lexington.
It had charm, the normal ups and downs of any city and I like the idea of some wide open spaces and farms to look at too. I know there is so much more to discover. Does anyone have any suggestions on ethnic foods, good night life and or suggested events? I could even welcome information on were to volunteer time to those in need as well.
I found the surrounding areas I passed through like Nicholsville and Georgetown and this Scott county to be- average on any scale. Georgetown seemed plain a bit countrified and totally small town. Again average.
While driving through other places, I noticed some run down areas clearly a much poorer section. I really didn't expect much else. Everyplace in America has to have an area for those who cannot afford the higher cost of living to reside. This is only fair and decent. So I wasn't so surprised. I just would know when coming in to live, where not to land a place to rent/buy.
That's odd, because Georgetown and Nicholasville are among the wealthier areas in Central KY, especially areas outside of Nicholasville.
Georgetown is also one of the fastest growing areas in the state due to Toyota.
Ok, I was so motivated to see for myself the general area I went on a short trip there to Lexington. I saw a moderate city, with surrounding areas that seemed still very much"down home". I am positive I did not get around to as many great places the area has to offer, but I did keep my eyes open to the general vibe and the social vibe.
I found the surrounding areas I passed through like Nicholsville and Georgetown and this Scott county to be- average on any scale. Georgetown seemed plain a bit countrified and totally small town. Again average.
While driving through other places, I noticed some run down areas clearly a much poorer section. I really didn't expect much else. Everyplace in America has to have an area for those who cannot afford the higher cost of living to reside. This is only fair and decent. So I wasn't so surprised. I just would know when coming in to live, where not to land a place to rent/buy.
I can't say I have been impressed with my visit, in fairness I was not able to drive the entire county or the whole of Lexington to check out all it has to offer. I did see in Lexington that is, a few Indian and African restaurants which made me feel THRILLED because I am an ethnic foody at heart.
Traffic, I did get a "taste" of that. It was slight but I noticed- unnecessary.
I noticed a lot of duplexes and apartment complexes. I did see an excessive amount of strip malls. Strip malls- cant live with them, cannot live without them. If the towns/cities didn't have them we would complain so we just live with them. I personally find them annoying but when I need a gift for someone poof it will be important. All in all, I liked Lexington.
It had charm, the normal ups and downs of any city and I like the idea of some wide open spaces and farms to look at too. I know there is so much more to discover. Does anyone have any suggestions on ethnic foods, good night life and or suggested events? I could even welcome information on were to volunteer time to those in need as well.
Thanks!
Lexington is a different city during the school year than the summer. Everything is a lot more crowded. The places on South Lime go packed and you really feel that big college vibe. At least I always have, and still do when the leaves start to turn. What you have to understand about Lexington though is that everything was built around UK.
The cool thing about Lexington that I used to love to do when I lived there was to pick a road and follow it just to see where it goes. So I'd pick Harrodsburgh and go out with a tank of gas and just drive. After awhile, it was almost addicting. I loved seeing all those little towns I didn't even know existed. There are some areas where you literally say 'wow.'
If you take Harrodsburgh Road all the way out of the city, past county limits, you eventually hit a park with a big old bridge over it. The park is located in a valley with a creek running through it. I thought that was cool to find, and I'm sure the Jessaminians know which park I'm talking about. Once you hit the park, you hit the river and can't go any further.
Then if you take Richmond Road out of the city, you see some breathtaking scenes after passing through a a very small town (which I believed is called Athens or something like that) and you eventually hit a restaurant on the river (Kentucky River, maybe?), which is a great place to eat. It may be 25-30 miles outside of the city. I wish I could remember the name of it, but the scenery between Athens and that restaurant is pretty neat (especially on a blue sky day).
Hell, I explored Winchester, Georgetown, Versailles, Frankfort, Richmond and Danville.
As far as placed to eat, I'd recommend DeSha's downtown in Lexington, followed by Sal's and the place in Hamburg Pavillion owned by Ted Turner's daughter (or something like that). The Ted Turner place is the one with buffalo on the menu.
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This is what pains me about people like you. I don't like to generalize, but I don't know how else to put it.
First, let me say that I love the state of Kentucky and it's history. I am 'one of those' UK fans. I also attended WKU, UK and UofL. I am from Louisville.
Yet, this attitude of hating Louisville in rural Kentucky is one thing holding this state back. Let me make it clear that I am not talking to all people in rural Kentucky, but that type of person. Being a Louisville native, and others will likely empathize, nothing seems more ignorant than hating the state's biggest city. To me, it has shades of jealousy, so you hate it. That's my honest analysis.
While the urban / rural divide exists nationally, it's really bad in Kentucky. There are many in this state who want to prevent growth in Louisville, and many times there are political reasons for that. Yet they are the first to benefit from the city's tax revenue.
So why hate? The growth of Louisville is in the best interest of all Kentuckians economically. The threat is to the old money politicians who fear competition. A great example is David Williams on the issue of gambling -- when he won't live anywhere close to a casino with it legalized.
Lexington is a good town. I had many good years there. I had them in Bowling Green too. I have friends from the most extreme areas of Appalachia and the most redneck areas of Paducah. However, I don't go around hating the rest of the state because I am not from there.
It all comes down to a matter of preference and how you want to live, but for the benefit of the state, more unity would do wonders. It's not about size of cities or who is better...It's about realizing that we can all push this state and everyone can benefit.
Generalize me all you want!!! I think you got what I said twisted, and you don't know me. If you go back and read what I posted, you would see that I said STX's feelings towards the rest of the state are, for the most part, returned. According to your quote in the gray box above, you would agree with that. I never said I hated Louisville. You say more unity would do wonders for this state and I couldn't agree more, but I disagree with our moderator's tactics to promote this unity, which is who I was addressing in the first place. If I went on the Louisville forum and said that no one cares about you and no one knows where Louisville is, how would you respond? Does everybody that you disagree with pain you?
And by the way, Louisville does have a blend of northern culture, southern culture and midwestern culture. People need to realize that this 'culture' thing is a form of branding in many ways as well. Louisville is not any of those culture per se, but a blend of many, and that's what makes it unique.
If you look at city allegiances, you can absolutely see many northern connections. Whether it be Jewish Hospital, the Big East, The Triple Crown (located in Louisville, Baltimore, and New York), a more liberal culture or it's roots in manufacturing and trade on the Ohio. Now, is Louisville just like Cincinnati? lol, as if Cincinnati is something to strive for. Cincinnati hardly a northern city in the first place...it's barely above Louisville. And really, I'd say rural southern Indiana is more 'southern' than parts of Kentucky. Of my closest friends from Louisville, the majority of their famillies have roots in New York or New Jersey....and their last names end in i. I have always identified more with the north than the southerners in terms of culture, and I'm not alone there....but the thing about Louisville, a lot of people will also disagree...cough...and we know why.
People should stop hating and learn respect.
I know, people should learn respect. You know, like not generalizing. I'll be fine. Anyway, the Cincinnati comparison was used by yours truly to show that the gaps in population between Louisville, Lexington, and Cincinnati were similar. Honestly, where do you see any hate or personal attacks? If you're so worried about respect on an online forum, maybe you should try earning it a little harder. As for the north vs south thing, I love both but we'll have to agree to disagree on the subject.
Generalize me all you want!!! I think you got what I said twisted, and you don't know me. If you go back and read what I posted, you would see that I said STX's feelings towards the rest of the state are, for the most part, returned. According to your quote in the gray box above, you would agree with that. I never said I hated Louisville. You say more unity would do wonders for this state and I couldn't agree more, but I disagree with our moderator's tactics to promote this unity, which is who I was addressing in the first place. If I went on the Louisville forum and said that no one cares about you and no one knows where Louisville is, how would you respond? Does everybody that you disagree with pain you?
I don't agree that everything in Louisville is better than Lexington as the apparent moderator suggested. I agree it goes both ways as well. There are a lot of ignorant people from Louisville who have never lived outside of city limits who actually believe that there is nothing outside of my moderate sized city (which I do love by the way).
But don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about either and don't be a hater just because you don't live here. I could bash where you live very easily, but why do that? If you have an argument with someone else, that's fine, but if you don't want your quarrel to involve me, then don't attack where I live. Thanks.
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