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Old 11-09-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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Kingsport has to keep trying these things. What is the alternative, give up? The glass company was a 50/50 shot from the beginning but you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I like that Kingsport is taking their shots.
Yeah, I agree with this. Kingsport is at least building up their core downtown. It's quite the achievement if you look at a lot of cities with struggling downtowns, that are Kingsport's size. I like the overall look and density of Kingsport's downtown. The housing component is a crucial piece of the downtown puzzle that had to happen. If this is a success--and a big "IF"--I bet another complex downtown will follow in the next couple years.

I believe a crucial key growth component to downtown for Kingsport is to expand and build upon the Northeast/ETSU/King college campus class locations downtown. If a dorm for one of those was built, it would be another game changer for downtown.
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Old 11-09-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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I wonder what guarantees, if any, are in place to commit the developer of Crossgate to complete the project.
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Old 12-05-2017, 04:34 PM
 
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I drove by this project today and man, are the developers moving fast. The 2 existing grocery store buildings are entirely gone, the site has been graded completely, and they are already beginning to drive the pile foundations into the ground.

At this rate, I bet the building will be almost finished completely by early fall 2018. Exciting to see it develop so quickly.
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Old 12-06-2017, 07:14 AM
 
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This is exciting to hear, and welcome news for this Kingsport native ! I have been meaning to drive down by there and check on progress, and will do so today. Thank you.
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Old 12-06-2017, 07:46 AM
 
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I wonder what guarantees, if any, are in place to commit the developer of Crossgate to complete the project.
I haven't heard. My concern is that the city doles out tons of abatements or even up front cash, then the project does not complete on time or at all and the taxpayers are left holding the bag. Often there aren't enough clawbacks on projects like this.

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Yeah, I agree with this. Kingsport is at least building up their core downtown. It's quite the achievement if you look at a lot of cities with struggling downtowns, that are Kingsport's size. I like the overall look and density of Kingsport's downtown. The housing component is a crucial piece of the downtown puzzle that had to happen. If this is a success--and a big "IF"--I bet another complex downtown will follow in the next couple years.

I believe a crucial key growth component to downtown for Kingsport is to expand and build upon the Northeast/ETSU/King college campus class locations downtown. If a dorm for one of those was built, it would be another game changer for downtown.
While the carousel, farmer's market, etc., are nice, the elephant in the room is Domtar. I just don't see much of a market for high-end apartments in Kingsport as it is. Combine the lack of demand in Kingsport with multiple new apartment complexes and just the smell/sight of Domtar, that's going to be a drag for any new complex.

I agree a dorm or more residential style campus would help and generate food traffic/increase business traffic, but I don't see that happening. Historically, ETSU at Kingsport/Bristol were just satellites offering mostly basic courses. Unless the schools are willing to make a bigger commitment to Kingsport, it will always probably be a small, auxiliary campus.

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Old 03-13-2018, 12:00 PM
 
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Update here on this downtown apartment complex--I drove by this earlier today, and the construction workers are starting to work on the 4 and 5 story stairwell and elevator shafts--they just went up, it looks like, in 2 sections. So, this is the first to rise out of the sight beyond ground work.

Foundations are poured and plumbing pipes look to be all in place for the eventual bathrooms/kitchens.

I'd imagine the frames of the complex will be up by late April/early May. With this nice progress, I'd think the finish date should be late fall/early winter 2018.

Solid progress!
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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The wood "frame" of the structure is now up, and there appear to be some larger windows on the bottom level. I'm not sure if they're planning residences on the bottom, or some sort of retail.
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:52 PM
 
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The wood "frame" of the structure is now up, and there appear to be some larger windows on the bottom level. I'm not sure if they're planning residences on the bottom, or some sort of retail.
This is great news--seems to be progressing pretty nicely. I hope they don't have an issue renting them, but they do seem a bit pricey for the area, from what I've heard/read.

Definitely a big positive thing for downtown though--and that area. Should hopefully give a continued momentum towards other downtown infill density--with more office and residential in the future.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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I was down that way last night and there has been a lot of progress.

The "main" building is pretty much framed and up now, and there are two additional, smaller buildings coming up. I don't know what those are being used for, but this is probably the largest apartment development in Kingsport that I can remember.
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:12 PM
 
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I was down that way last night and there has been a lot of progress.

The "main" building is pretty much framed and up now, and there are two additional, smaller buildings coming up. I don't know what those are being used for, but this is probably the largest apartment development in Kingsport that I can remember.
Yeah, coming along fast indeed. I was down there mid last week myself.

The 3 "separate" buildings you see are actually different phases of one entire, seamless apartment building, as entirely one complex.

It will be a "U-shaped" all-connected building. The portion on Sullivan Street is the first and most finished phase, and the section on Clinchfield and Press Streets are building up in phases and all 3 sections will soon connect as one building, that is "U-shaped," as mentioned.

In the middle will be the pool and parking.

It's going to be a really nice complex, and what seemed like a questionable location at first, now makes a lot of sense. Grocery and a few bars/restaurants are a block away, and other downtown amenities are very walkable as well.

Will be very interesting to see how quickly or slowly they rent....
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