10-27-2009, 09:00 PM
Location: somewhere over the rainbow Ohio
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LLuce
why keep them from pulling your credit?
I would guess is every time the credit is pulled, it counts against the final score.
Pam
10-27-2009, 09:04 PM
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Do you know if I will be asked to pay for transaction fees when shop around for a good faith estimate from a mortgage broker? Will mortgage broker provide a good faith estimate to me?
10-27-2009, 09:36 PM
Location: Maryville, TN
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Good point. I never thought about that. How does someone get their own credit score? I've had my credit report, can get that once a year free. But it never included the actual credit score.
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Pam& Bill
I would guess is every time the credit is pulled, it counts against the final score.
10-27-2009, 09:39 PM
Location: Beautiful East TN!!
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LLuce
why keep them from pulling your credit?
Because every time your credit is pulled, it will lower your score. I know "they" say that if you are shopping for a mortgage that you can have your credit pulled as many times as you need to within a 14 day period and it is only one hit. There is a little known fact about that that "they" forget to tell you. Every mortgage broker or banker needs to use the same credit pulling company (no they do not pull direct from Equifax, Transunion and Experian, it has to be from a third party.) for that to actually happen. There are 40 or so pulling companies. In reality when shopping for a mortgage your score could go so low during that process that you could shop yourself right out of eligibility for a mortgage.
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Do you know if I will be asked to pay for transaction fees when shop around for a good faith estimate from a mortgage broker? Will mortgage broker provide a good faith estimate to me?
No, you should not be charged anything to get a quote, which essentially what a Good Faith Estimate is. Yes, banks and or mortgage brokers will provide you with a Good Faith Estimate. Word of caution, do not go with who ever has the lowest rate, go for the lowest fees associated and who you just feel better working with. The GFE will have all associated fees on it.
Make sure you are comparing apples to apples, same mortgage (30 year fixed) amount of down payment and rate, then look at all the other fees.
Hope that helps.
10-27-2009, 11:27 PM
Location: The Conterminous United States
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LLuce
Good point. I never thought about that. How does someone get their own credit score? I've had my credit report, can get that once a year free. But it never included the actual credit score.
You do have to pay for that. I checked mine not that long ago. I forget what I paid, but it wasn't that much.
If you pull your free credit report you can print it and bring it with you to the bank or mortgage company.
10-28-2009, 01:22 PM
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Not a common thing of hearing this in TN that majority of the real estate folks are not good. They will leave you hanging and show up to collect the comission check.
As for the title company and mortgage broker, it is buyer's choice however most of the time your "honest" agent can make a recommendation but at the same time he/she has to let you know if they are getting any "kick-backs" from the deal
Goodluck with your first home and let us know how it goes. There are a few GREAT real estate folks here in Knoxville but you have to avoid the bad ones.
10-28-2009, 02:26 PM
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I got 2 quotes (30 years fixed) from a national bank that I got my pre-approval letter and a local TN bank recommended by my agent. The national bank is 0.26% higher than the local bank. These two banks should have pulled my credit score in order to give me the quote. I haven't checked the fees but will look into it later. Should I shop around for a better rate and fees? Will my credit score be ruined if I shop around?
10-28-2009, 03:50 PM
Location: Beautiful East TN!!
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I got 2 quotes (30 years fixed) from a national bank that I got my pre-approval letter and a local TN bank recommended by my agent. The national bank is 0.26% higher than the local bank. These two banks should have pulled my credit score in order to give me the quote. I haven't checked the fees but will look into it later. Should I shop around for a better rate and fees? Will my credit score be ruined if I shop around?
Check the fees, check the fees, check the fees! That is where the truth is about the better choice. Also, was the local bank also a 30 year fixed? 30 year fixed, over 80% loan to value you will have higher rates but could be the best mortgage. Do not shop by rate alone. Yes, the more people who pull your credit, the lower your score will drop. Tell them you score and debt service ratio and they should be able to give you a quote based on that, but remember, if you tell them you have a 780 credit score and a 33% DTI and when you choose them because they quoted you the best rate, then when they do pull your credit and get your income information and it is really a 615 and a 55% DTI, do not be surprise when they say they can either not give you a mortgage at all or it will be at a much higher rate and you have to put more cash down. You have to give them real info to work with.
10-28-2009, 05:45 PM
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Both quotes based on 30 years fixed. I can't compare the fees between the national bank and the local TN bank yet as I received a written good faith estimate only from the national bank. I got a verbal quote from the local TN bank but haven't received a written one from them yet.
10-28-2009, 06:37 PM
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That is just an estimate on the insurance. You choose an agent or stick with the one you have for your cars or life insurance. They don't know what your premium will be so they estimate, usually high. It is good that they put that on there up front because it will be in the final, make sure the local includes your "escrows" (that is what anything included in your payment on top of principle and interest is called.)
Get a written Good faith from the local bank.
note: DM me for anything further, I am happy to help but this line of conversation is going off topic, sort of, from the original thread topic.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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